This is MAGA propaganda to spur them on. Who really thinks it was anyone other than trump and his goons who made this happen. They probably already had the ‘shooter’ picked out and are planning the frame as we speak. It worked with Luigi so they will just keep doing it until its the US version of fell out a window.
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My money is on a Trump/CIA plot to distract from the Epstein files.
I would say it’s not even to distract as much as to silence him. If you watch the event, he was talking about it 20 minutes before being shot. He was saying that other republicans needed to answer for blocking the release of said files. The fact he wasn’t letting go of the epstein case and he has one of the biggest followings of young republicans, he was a threat to whoever doesn’t want that discussed. It’s possible it could have been something else, but who knows?
If true, things are not looking great for Nick Fuentez.
I swear, Trump could order the military to murder every single person left on the political spectrum of Hitler tomorrow, and people would be like “Stop trying to distract from the Epstein files”.
I mean, we have a pedophile in the white house, and an open cover up of it. A normal person would be on trial right now, and/or already in prison. We should be making a big deal about it.
Sure, make a big deal about it. But everything that happens isn’t an attempt at distracting from it. That’s just distracting from the other shit.
This sucks for Kirk’s family. They should release the Epstein files.
those kids will totally get bullied by other kids showing them the video of their dad dying. that’s all I really feel bad about today.
Yea. About the only thing sad about this.
Like, they are still kids, Charlie might have been a bigoted fascist but that’s far too complicated for children to fully understand; to them, he was just “Dad”.
It is truly unfortunate for them they had the ill fate of being born to such a horrible person, but that horrid person was spreading rhetoric which has resulted in countless other children losing parents themselves. All I can hope is that those kids grow up to understand this.
No amount of mourning their “Dad” will ever compensate the hate he had for his daughter when he said he would allow her to give birth if raped… at age 9.
You can’t convince me this and the trump shooter aren’t right wing gambits.
Trump I can see because his pedo ties, but I have a feeling this one is a lefty.
Based on what exactly?
Nothing really. Just my opinion. Kirk seemed like someone who wouldn’t be divisive in the right wing community. He parroted everything they wanted to hear.
I’d imagine it’s an ex-supporter though. No one is more upset than someone who feels betrayed by someone they used to trust.
Recent flip flopping from the right wing on issues like releasing the Epstein files, and gun rights for trans people. Both seem like they have the potential to piss off members of the base.
Easily could be someone Charlie fucked over. Could be a gambling debt.
Will this one finally distract from the Epstein files?
This is a safer way to look at the Epstein birthday book (PBS link) if you’re interested. Still a PDF. https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2025/09/Request-No.-1.pdf
I didnt like Kirk. I didn’t agree with what he had to say. But by God he was a person, and the whole left vs right thing needs to fucking stop.
I find it a little grotesque how thrilled people are about it, but no one is happy he’s dead just because he’s “right”. They’re happy because he was a monster that inflicted a lot of pain on other people intentionally. He was an absolutely piece of shit.
he was a person
He was also a prolific bigot spreading his bigotry to millions of gullible people.
Good riddance.
Killing is not the best outcome, but the left versus right thing should definitely happen. The right kills way more than the left could even think about killing. The right needs to stop being a thing.
i’m more than a bit skeptical that “the left” was responsible for this. I think its highly likely that this was a false flag attack.
I fucking hate BlueAnon. Sure there’s a good chance it was someone even farther right than he was, but not everything is a false flag. Do you have literally any evidence of it being a false flag beyond “just think about it bro”?
The fact that the bullet casings supposedly had “transgender” wording inscribed on them is a little too convenient to not raise suspicion. Either A) whole thing was setup or B) evidence is being doctored. C) Could be all on the up and up and everything just falls into place perfectly, but how likely really?
I wouldn’t be surprised if evidence was being tampered with or mishandled, but there’s a lot of distance between mishandled/misleading evidence and a false flag attack. If there’s evidence of a false flag that’s one thing, but I’m gonna need more than “think about it, is everything really on the up and up?”
given the location and the years i lived there, knowing nothing else i’d think it’s someone who thinks kirk wasn’t far right enough
Yah it’s more likely than not some unhinged, violent right-winger either listening to the voices telling him who’s actually a lizard person or that Charlie Kirk is actually a clone and/or involved with some Q-anon fuckery.
BECAUSE THAT’S WHO IT ALWAYS IS.
When you’re someone who wants to solve the world’s problems via rifles with scopes, you’re not a balanced, well-adjusted person to begin with. I’m sure there are plenty of people with left-leaning ideas who fit this bill, but we’re just talking probabilities here.
What video card and monitor combo for 3400 fps?
Don’t give Elmo any ideas…
Pair up a 5090 with a 640x480 monitor and open up your copy of Quake 1. Easy 3400 fps.
Trump ordered all flags at half mast until Sunday. If I had a flagpole, I’d be racing to add an extension on to it, even if it looked like shit, to raise it higher.
It’s like flying the flags at half-staff if Joe Rogan took too much ket this weekend.
Flying the flags at half mast for a bigot.
Trump’s America.
We dont yet know if the assassin is from the left
It won’t matter as they will accuse the left regardless.
“Will”!? Our mad orange king, as well as the other MAGA freaks are already blaming everyone left of “the poors should be hunted for sport” for this. Right now. Regardless of the killer’s beliefs, it so obviously wasn’t a coordinated campaign approved of by every non-conservative…
Joe Biden did it on his bicycle.
It was a tandem with…OBAMA IN THE BACK
Thanks Obama!
360° no scope headshot. Biden invented that move in WW1.
Counterstrike 1.6 !!!
I hope it was a vegan bicycle.
Right? Most of the left don’t even know who this dude is. It could be a business partner for all we know.
People on Lemmy are more likely to know but yes, I tried explaining to my dad how much of a shitstain this guy was. His take away from TV News was that this guy was somehow not MAGA and therefore it’s sad. Like, no, he very much is MAGA, lol
The ABC national evening show was gargling his balls like he was going to come back and kiss them afterward. It was sickening.
Interesting point made in live updating CNN Manhunt article:
Here’s why authorities may be having a hard time finding Kirk’s killer, according to a chief CNN analyst From CNN’s Tori B. Powell
A manhunt is still underway as law enforcement tries to find the person who fired the shot that killed conservative activist Charlie Kirk today.
According to CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst John Miller, the shooter’s planning, skill and execution may be complicating the search.
He told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins that snipers have been studied closely by the government and they typically are people who are “methodical and patient, self-reliant.”
“This is the kind of person who would have planned to get in silently, try to be invisible, take this shot, accomplish the mission, take the gun with them and leave little evidence behind which is why I think they’re having a very difficult time getting started on this.”
Officials said earlier today that they believe the shooter fired one shot at one person and that it was a targeted incident.
The single fired shot shows that “the person is not new to shooting,” Miller said, which ultimately could help officials get to the bottom of the investigation.
“This is someone who knew exactly what they were doing and is probably known to others, and this may be working to the advantage of law enforcement,” Miller said. “As someone who has a long history in shooting, this wasn’t an amateur.”
So, dude takes his position, fires a single shot for the kill, and then disappears without a trace. Pretty impressive.
Could be a paid for dude, which seems most likely judging by the description. Not many snipers in the general populace, I’m guessing. Ex-military maybe?
Do they know how far away they were? What rooftop they were on? I’m hoping they get away with it, but I’m not sure it would even have to be monetarily motivated. Maybe one of their friends or family members were killed as a result of his bullshit? There’s plenty of reasons to kill a shitstain like Kirk. Plenty of people, especially on this website, would’ve done the same if they had the ability.
CBS news at dinnertime didn’t have details on where but from witness accounts it was at least 100yds, 'cause people said the shot wasn’t that loud. That shit stays loud for 100ft easy. I’m sure law enforcement knows what rifle fired the round by now and it wouldn’t surprise me if they are shitting their pants because it’s some weird fucker like 6.5 creedmoor
edit: I guess if someone pulled an Oswald and was inside the Book Depository that would muffle the sound heard by people near the victim. However, Utah is pretty fucking big without many tall buildings.
Could’ve also had a suppressor. They don’t eliminate all the sound like the movies, but make a huge difference with rifles.
That’s true.
I’m bored. What do you think happened?
I think long-range hunting rifle with a scope. .270 maybe?
I’ve dropped deer that far out and I am no sniper. I’d wager that most hunters could make that shot.
I’ve seen this one before on Red Dwarf. He shot himself.
He’s one of the most meme’d on conservatives of the last decade in leftist spaces. Who doesn’t know his forehead?
And his gums.
Don’t know who Charlie Kirk is? He runs so many ads on youtube with tpusa, that I’m surprised that there’s people that don’t know he exists atp.
Plus the guy’s been memed to oblivion. I have a lot of Tinyface Charlie memes in my phone.
I may have seen the tiny face meme but never heard the name. But I also don’t frequent political areas.
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I use ublock to watch youtube.
Fair enough. A lot of people don’t.
A lot of people don’t know what adblock is.
Me too, and in the last day or so, ads have started playing now and again. Usually only one ad, with a skip button that appears after a bit. I wonder if something has changed?
Restart your computer and browser, that usually works for me.
That worked, thanks.
I have wondered from time to time where the militant left is.
Lol, it’s gonna be a disgruntled former magat
Theyve emboldened their followers to use violence to hurt those that “fail them” some are starting to take notice and some of those are unstable enough to use violence. Live by the gun die by the gun
Gripping the rifle with thighhighs makes girlcocks look cuter. So uh, we were distracted. Tyrannywhat?
Bitching, on the internet.
I think the preferred term is slacktivism. Reading theory and posting copypastas online lol
“I’m ready bro, just waiting for the signal bro”
Yeah, this is as dumb as Trump calling it political violence.
Could be any number of people he fucked over or stiffed. These types if people (sociopaths) don’t care about anyone but themselves.
It’s obviously political violence though, whether the shooter is from the left or not. But sure it might be an elaborate mafia hit or his wife’s ex-boyfriend acting out some revenge fantasy – seems awfully unlikely though.
Could be Kirk’s ex-boyfriend for all we know.
Looking at the rate they get caught fucking other men, most homophobes seem to be self-hating bisexuals.
oh so NOW the Bis exist when you need someone to throw under the bus for a shooting.
Yeah, no. Kirk was straight. I can tell. Some are bisexuals, especially the ones that think being gay is a choice. There was nothing remotely gay about the man in any way. He believed everything he said. And it was probably a desnat or something.
What if… there is a civil war, but it’s old-school conservatives vs MAGA?
I mean, just going off the last two people who shot at trump in the last year…
There’s no reason to say this wasn’t MAGA yet.
It could be someone who thought Kirk wasn’t going far enough because he still wanted to talk
I am fully convinced the trump thing was a false flag operation. They specifically selected a mentally unhealthy kid who was a bad shot. Trump wasn’t grazed by the bullet. The movements of his security and the press to set up that photo op paints it’s own damning picture.
Charlie is just to much a fucking idiot to adhere to the same security protocols as literally every conservative event.
The movements of his security and the press to set up that photo op paints it’s own damning picture.
I saw the video of them dragging Kirk out to and the difference between that and how they acted after Trump was “shot” is crazy…
Like, this is what you expected out of any shooting. trump they legitimately seemed to not really give a shit.
Charlie is just to much a fucking idiot
*was
Anyway, IMO the main flaw in your “false flag operation” idea is that they’d want a good shot to make sure he wasn’t hit by accident. Having a bad shot point a gun at him would’ve been a Hell of a risk.
Fair point. But trump dying was a feature not a bug my dude. The fascist movement in the USA is clearly not confined to MAGA; as evidenced by the capitulation of big tech.
I’m still convinced Trump was a means to an end. The GOP’s owners want him gone. He’s a fucking moron and they’re all just sitting waiting wishing for him to die.
Look at what Fox is doing to Charlies death. They will 100% weaponize trumps death regardless of the cause.
The reason that I just can’t take that idea seriously is that, well, there at least was someone actually shooting, so if it was faked the way they would have to do it would be along the lines of “shooting at Trump, but intentionally missing”. That would be a fairly dangerous move though, if your fake shooter’s aim was off, there’s the risk that it accidentally becomes a real assassination instead, and that level of risk feels out of character for Trump.
Further, were it staged, I’d expect it to be designed to advantage Trump as much as possible. Surely the “shooter” would be revealed to be one of the many demographics he riles people up against, or at least an outspoken democrat, and surely they would have played it up as much as possible throughout the election instead of having it done well before the final weeks and letting it get buried by the news cycle before people actually went to the polls.
He also surrounds himself with loyal but often incompetent people, and is an old man prone to saying embarrassing things. Would he really have been able to keep such a fake a secret even for this long?
Has no one heard of squibs?
But trump dying was a feature not a bug my dude. The fascist movement in the USA is clearly not confined to MAGA; as evidenced by the capitulation of big tech.
I’m still convinced Trump was a means to an end. The GOP’s owners want him gone. He’s a fucking moron and they’re all just sitting waiting wishing for him to die.
Look at what Fox is doing to Charlies death. They will 100% weaponize trumps death regardless of the cause.
To be fair, he surrounds himself with fascists hungry for power. Just because he probably didn’t set it up doesn’t mean that one of his “buddies” didn’t.
Not saying it was Vance, but for the sake of argument, in shoes of that caliber it’s a win win. Trump gets killed? Well lookie here, we got a martyr and a new replacement ready for the throne. Trump doesn’t get killed? They get a photo shoot that sways public perception.
That’s literally how Hitler kept his cronies in check. Having them all fighing for power underneath him.
Everyone assuming trump dying was a bug not a feature doesn’t simply relate to the cuthroats like trump and his ilk.
Idk at least for the second term of this administration, Trump being the figurehead is an integral part. Cult of personality is necessary in a fascist/dictatorial rise to power. I honestly don’t think Vance would be able to implement the same policy. However, now with the precedent being set he could
I honestly don’t think Vance would be able to implement the same policy.
Potentially, but fascists aren’t known for their competence
I am fully convinced the trump thing was a false flag operation.
A lot of people are saying it. Smart people. I mean it looks like Trump liked the guy and is angry about the hit, and he’s pretty truthful most of the time.
Look, I don’t know shit about sqibs, body doubles or false flag stuff, and think it’s a lone wolf sort of thing.
It’s just that a lot of smart people are having all sorts of questions.
I say we all do our own research to figure out what really happened.
false flag stuff, and think it’s a lone wolf sort of thing.
A lone wolf that was manipulated by the reality presented to him, fed motivation, and presented with an artificial opportunity. Just one of a short list of individuals being actively “groomed” into false flag shooters.
As far as this kirk shooting, AFAIK they still haven’t found the guy? They’ve already arrested and released 2+ people on this.
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So much confidence.
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I don’t know… The many layers of shocking incompetence across several different law enforcement agencies? Certainly sounds like a Trump administration thing. Nothing surprising about that. Did the trump administration take huge advantage of it? Absolutely. Was the ear graze and blood faked? Probably.
But I still believe that the attempt was real.
And he conveniently carries around a fake blood packet just in case?
Wait a minute, ketchup!
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It was red, so maybe he was having a Giuliani style hair dye melting incident
That’s kind of my take. It was real, but he was fine the next day. I wouldn’t put it past them to do a false flag kind of thing, but most people would cheer if he died, which the last leave of absence proved.
Lol, so true. Just the rumor of his possible death had people cheering!
True but really when we look at Kirk the only not far enough he could be doing is Epstein. Otherwise he’s jackboot all the way.
Was*
I like you
Yeah there plenty of groups mad at turning point USA for not being far right enough, even calling it alt-lite
MAGA doesn’t learn.
They gonna learn the hard way.
Oh, I wonder how this meme will age.
Risky, but I took the shot.
Is there any confirmation that the shooter was in any way a leftist, or motivated by left wing ideals? From all I know, it was some random guy who could have been a right winger who thinks Trump is centralizing the government which goes against his Ayn Rand ideology; or it could just be a loonie.
As far as I can tell, they know absolutely nothing at this moment in time. So just you generic “the people I don’t like did it” rhetoric.
Squids did it!
None, here’s what we probably know
It was probably done with a rifle at some point, shooter was on a roof, shooter ran away, that’s about what we know at this point.
For all we know, it could have been an incompetent hunter two kilometres away.
who doesn’t take the time to clean their rifle while at a public event?
Sir this happened in Utah they use God’s own units.
Since it was a rifle we use football fields. 22 football fields away.
American football of course. We have no idea how many football pitches this might have been. 3? 200? There’s just no way to know.
No. The shooter was a CIA operative sent by Bill Clinton to distract from the Epstein files. It will turn out that the “suspect” is a young black Arab Mexican man from China sent here to start a lgbtq+ revolution.
This is a false flag to further supress any non white Christian men.
Also I don’t know who the shooter is. But I do know we were together all day in Florida at the time.
I bet he was one of those Wiccan Buddhist atheist
Can confirm, I also was in Florida with ya’ll at a BBQ that day.
It’s someone from the right. It’s always someone from the right. Every single time
Popping off solo is an exclusively conservative extremist position
Leftist extremism is group based
Couldn’t the Unabomber be debatably extreme left? Not that it really matters, because going extreme enough in either direction ends up pretty close to the other–horseshoe theory or something.
Horshoe theory is bullshit.
Politics do not exist in a spectrum, that’s insane. Extremism is one dimension of many that describe a political position
I think the point is that if you go extreme enough on any part of the spectrum/plot/whatever, you’re going to be supportive of generally unpalatable/harmful ideology.
Yeah, I know. That’s what I’m saying is bullshit
Generally, on one extreme you have a distopian nightmare, on the other extreme you have something impractical, but would be great if it worked
And willingness to do violence to achieve political goals is another axis. On one extreme, you use violence against everyone not part of your group. On the other, even the slightest property damage or inconvenience to others is unacceptable
Those aren’t the same thing. One option is horrible, the other is impractical, but wouldn’t it be nice if it worked?
That’s fair, I agree with that.
Unabomber was 30+ years ago, and he explicitly identifies the left with society’s problems
THE PSYCHOLOGY OF MODERN LEFTISM
- Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.
Here is a nice summary of how the Unabomber (and apparently the author of the article) perceived the left:
https://medium.com/@eric.johnson7654/i-agree-with-the-unabomber-about-leftists-4cc100896e64
The guy who shot up the Congressional baseball game was at least a socdem, wasn’t he?
Huh… Yeah, apparently. I guess I’ll have to start saying every time instead of literally every time now
