• nandeEbisu@lemmy.world
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    He made fun of trans people and trans people pushed back.

    If you support trans people in Saudi Arabia the government throws you in jail.

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    Right now in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, that you’ll get canceled,” Chappelle told an audience of 6,000, according to The New York Times. “I don’t know if that’s true, but I’m gonna find out.” He then added, “It’s easier to talk here than it is in America.”

    Based and true. Nobody read the article.

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        They are chasing money for sure, but that doesn’t make their jokes right wing.

        I’d like to hear some far right jokes because I bet they aren’t funny. Any examples?

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        If you ever heard real right wing comedy, it makes sense that normal comedians try to tap into that well.

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          I think you need to clarify… Is it because right wing comedy is just so good that they want to participate, or that right wing comedy is so terrible it’s a ripe opportunity to be a gigantic fish in a small crappy pond?

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          you should really elaborate more, the only people/comedians that go fore “anti-woke” jokes are right wingers themselves, or they were closeted right wingers. you might be confused by comedians that has a veneer of "punching Up).

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      Never heard of this guy, but from his quotes in the article he doesn’t seem funny at all?

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      He also sent strong antivax messages to black Americans. I liked his comedy but he got addicted to money and is a disappointing human.

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        is a disappointing human.

        He was always a disappointing human.

        He just used to be a funny disappointing human.

        Now he’s a sad, disappointing human.

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            Things can be both funny and disappointing. He found disappointing things to say and made them funny with observation; it was his schtick, his only schtick. He was ‘edgy’ before edgy was hot. Low-effort humor, still funny to an extent, but a lot of people used it as a bar for their own disappointing observations, it bred acceptance of hate and racism because they thought funny == good.

            Some people cannot separate their comedy/actions from what they should and should not do in real life. It enabled the “settle down it’s just a joke BS”. They idolized him; he became wealthy and a conservative mouthpiece.

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            I couldn’t give less of a fuck if anyone’s a traitor to their own country in that way. The tax evasion is bad because of ethics, not because he “betrayed his country”. It didn’t have any effect on his lifestyle but he chose to do it anyway, it’s all about him being a greedy fuck and not about Nationalism.

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              but how the fuck do you enrich yourself and not give back to your country? who else is paying for the police, roads, schools, hospitals, and then you also get to “vote” on how it’s spent? I’m a low-wage broke fuck but I still pay taxes and that’s how the government makes me contribute to everything we all benefit from. Meanwhile, this super wealthy multi-millionare twat does not, and tax evades instead? I’m someone who contributes to, and is hurt when I see my country struggles because we’re all in this together.

              You understand me right? that’s why I used the word traitor. he should be jailed and not welcomed in the UK

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      Pete Davison is just mind blowing. He can’t even make jokes about how SA murdered his Jewish dad, while he sucks the dick of the men who murdered his dad

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      Counterpoint: If America gave a fuck about women it

      1. Wouldn’t have bought oil from a repressive regime that suppressed woman’s rights for decades and continues to do so.

      2. Elected a pedophile rapist who engaged in the trafficking of girls.

      3. Mourned and idolized a man who spread a religiously driven message that women should submit to men.

      Unless you’re saying supporting either nation implies a lack of support for women. Which would be an undoubtedly reasonable position.

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        I am intimately familiar with the ongoing hatred for women among Americans. Supreme Court rulings, legislative action, and modern campaigns for a return to lives of drudgery and involuntary childbearing are not even trying to sugarcoat the fact that we are considered lesser beings, despite being necessary for population growth.

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        they wouldn’t have created the conditions for saudi arabia to be repressive in the first place.

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        Perhaps we can have a slightly more granular system than giving a fuck, yes/no, 1 or 0, black and white. May I suggest perhaps we count how many fucks a country has to give for women? On that scale, we would properly see that the US gives far, far more fucks about women than Saudi Arabia. I’ve been there. Do not casually equate the two.

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          Yes we can have a granular system but then do we acknowledge:

          1. Saudi Arabia has made more progress in the right direction (though dictator driven) while the US has elected a rapist, pedophile trafficker of girls who is keen on undoing progress on woman’s rights. One who was elected by millions of voters which suggests that many agree with his worldview.

          2. That neither country respects women, even if one has developed more protections overall.

          3. Whether your god is Capitalism or a religious deity, women are seen as having less value (monerarily or spiritually).

          Please don’t oversimplify my efforts to bring nuance to this discussion. Making a simple ‘Saudi Arabia is worse than the US’ statement without appropriate context opens the door to two inhumane outcomes that I cannot tolerate.

          1. The dehumanization of people in Saudi Arabia for having perceivably less progressive values. We can disagree with people and their value system without forgetting their humanity. Unfortunately such arguments were used during the colonial era by Western powers to justify inumerable immoral acts.

          2. The dismissal of challenges faced by women in the US because women in other nations ‘have it worse’.

          So while I firmly believe both countries are in the category of ‘Needs Improvement’ I am wary of reductive arguments being used to materially worsen conditions for women both here and there.

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    “It’s easier to talk here than it is in America,”

    Yeah, as long as you don’t say anything about the imprisonments and murders without fair trial, religious intolerance, or make fun of the kings Mu’umu’u.

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      Also, he’s talking about the private consequences of his actions, not public ones. Let’s hear him criticize the state right now under Trump. Let’s hear him say “Charlie Kirk was not a good fellow” and see if they’re not calling for his execution that night. He’s not even talking about reality in the US. What a dipshit.

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      I was shocked as well. But I have to admit, to a certain extent Bill Burr has a point. Not everyone in that country is part of the Royal family and part of the oppression. And creating a doorway by introducing Western influences most especially Western comedy could conceivably bridge a gap there. However anybody criticizing the United States for attacks on freedom of speech while praising a place like Saudi Arabia needs to go fuck a horse.

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        I don’t disagree entirely and I’m sure they got a fat check out of it but you’re not going to shit talk SA in SA without getting your head cut off

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        The crown are making big adult playgrounds for rich people so they can divest themselves of the financial road-to-nowhere that is oil. There’s no morality in this, their people will still be deeply oppressed and no amount of witticisms will change that.

        I don’t even really judge Burr too harshly here, but the excuse is paper thin. I’d rather he just not give one and make a joke about how many millions he can’t make cussing out hecklers in Tucson.

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          yea hence the sportswashing, entertainment washing, and recently buying UP EA for 55bn. last i ehard thier countries oil reserves are going to dry up by the 2050s, if not sooner, yea they are in deep trouble if they doing it this early on.

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        Billy Burka argument is total bullshit. They’ve accepted blood money for whitewashing and the whole world begged them to reject it and speak up instead. Close the gap of my ass bro. The only gap that needs closing is his holed brain to understand that this dictorship is fully enabled by his American government against the will of Saudi citizens. Go perform for Putin and Kim Un next.

        I don’t want to repeat myself. Read my comment to understand because you sound clueless how this shit works:

        https://lemmy.world/comment/19750023

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      Daily reminder that Burr was never a progressive or ally to leftism, or even humanity broadly.

      We just all really loved when he directed his performance against the people who deserve it the most, so that’s what we choose to remember.

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        Daily reminder anyone who makes appeal to collective moralism while denigrating a specific individual is almost invariably an intolerable cunt.

        Also Bill Burr is a Legend

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          I agree Bill Burr = Legend. That first part though, I could agree with you but then we’d both be wrong.

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          Also Bill Burr is a Legend

          meh.

          He has his weak points. His podcasts during lockdowns quickly degraded to one hour of him watching sports on TV.

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          If you think it’s “denigrating” to say a celebrity you like wasn’t ever actually a progressive or symbol of leftism, then that’s a skill issue.

          If you think pointing this out is an “appeal to moral collectivism” then you need to need to go back to /r/debateme to argue with the other kids who just learned what logical fallacies are.

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        hes an opportunists like many comedians apparently. he was doing something very popular at the moment, aka the Luigi situation, and then immediately crawled back to whatever cave he came out of, not a peep after he made that statement.

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    This guy is a clown and not the funny kind. He likes to pretend he’s still one of the little people from the streets, all he cares about is money.

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      Clown? He’s a cheap whore. And i don’t mean the sex worker kind. I actually respect those.

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    He referenced the Charlie Kirk situation. He didn’t say anything about Charlie Kirk. He’s nothing more than a rightwing propagandist these days.

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      Which is so funny that he became “one of the good blacks” or at least he’s trying. The people he’s appealing to still hate him, they just like his “message”

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    Who the F does a “Comedy Festival” in Saudi Arabia, of all places? What’s next? North Korea? The USA?