This wasn’t satire?

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OMG this is so dumb.

Edit: I’m thinking this was satire?

Until then, people who have sacrificed enough of their weekend to the linux gods will be pipe internet text into their root consoles

“I’ll do what’s easy even if it’s not good” is a terrible approach to, well, anything. I would expect people in this community to look for guidance on what the best way to do things is. Seems I’m wrong.

Yeah - it’s remarkable that I receive pushback about it. I guess it’s down to the technical immaturity of your average home-gamer vs. people who support Linux systems for a living?

Why would any sensible competent tech user copy paste from other places because this one worked.

Because sites like this and people like you are normalizing the practice. I have seen numerous curl | sh commands pasted on lemmy telling people “how easy it is to install blank”.

Upgrade what? The LXC/VM you just removed because of a wonky script?

Did you purposefully misunderstand me? How did you not know that I meant “how do you update the thing you installed with a rando shell script” and not “how do you update something after removing it”?

You can install with package managers and include with it a helper script to setup the service. No big deal.

But can you spot the difference between http://myservice.com/script.sh and http://myserv1ce.com/script.sh if you use a font that doesn’t make it clear? If you get people used to just copy/pasting/running scripts then there’s a risk they’ll run something entirely different by accident.

There’s no good reason to install things this way.

Neat. Now you have a snowflake install. How do you upgrade it?

The URL can point to a different file. People can post maliciously similar URLs and trick you into running something else.

With a repository you have some semblance of “people have looked at this before”. Packages are signed and it will provide a standard way to uninstall and upgrade in the future.

There’s literally no good reason to replace it with a shell script on a website.

Package managers only install a package with defaults. These helper scripts are designed to take the user through a final config that isn’t provided by the package defaults.

This is trivially solved by having a “setup” script that is also installed by the package manager.

That said, let’s not gate keep.

This shouldn’t be an excuse for promoting risky behavior.

How do you “undo” whatever that script did?

Piping scripts directly to bash is a security risk. You can always download the scripts, inspect them and run locally if you so choose.

This entire trend needs to die. Package managers exist. Use them. Shun and shame sites that promote shell script installers.

May 20, 2022