It’s AMERICANS first! … and by that they mean WHITE AMERICANS! … and by that they mean RICH WHITE AMERICANS!
… And rich white Argentinians and rich, uh, you know the Qataris are great guys, some say the best. You know they gave me a plane once?
As it was written in the US Constitution. Add males only to that.
Nothing sounds more America First than single payer health insurance
Single prayer health insurance
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It has always been “Rich Americans First”.
AMERICA FIRST!
Think? Later!
Billionaires first.
It seems to be specific capitalist first. Not to defend “billionaires” but what’s going on is a bit of inter class conflict. I feel like the tarrifs are (1) an attack on the working class. We are the ones that actually pay them. And (2) are a means of giving a loyalty pledge to the the new administration. We’ll let you not pay the tarrifs if you agree.
If you know about the history of Nazi Germany it’s pretty similar. The petty bourgeois class (small business owners) were the ones that supported the rise of fascism within the electoral system; And they were the ones quickly ignored and discarded in favor of the concentration of capital.
In short. The small business is getting fucked, the middle is getting eaten or bought out, and those most loyal to the new administration are given rewards.
It’s the transition from neoliberalism to fascism. And the politicians are all trying to adjust to this change within the ruling class to get their donations and narratives. It’s why the Democratic party is so confused right now.
I read somewhere recently that over half of obamacare recipients voted for this. I sincerely believe long-covid takes the shine off an already dull knife. I hate that I have to disown nearly everyone (including family) to protect my kids from the social stank.
Weirdly enough, my mom has long covid and seems to have gotten smarter and more based. She’s organizing like 1000% more now.
All good. Nebraska farmers need that $20B bailout because China won’t buy their soybeans. LOL, imagine how pissed they are.
Nebraska farmers are supposed to go into foreclosure so Vance’s company can buy up the cheap farmland and use ‘immigrant’ slaves to work the fields.
I’m sure 80 to 90 percent would vote trump again without giving it a second thought. I’m sure 99 percent of them will vote for whatever GOP candidate is put forward regardless - that is if we ever get to vote again …
Not a base…. Temporary Training center with cheap housing for the trainees. I’m not defending anyone, but we need to keep the facts straight to continue to be credible.
That’s just repeating MAGA propaganda…
We can’t assume when Kegsworth said:
We’re giving them a military base
He meant
Temporary accomodations on an existing US base
Stop fucking defending fascists, just because you don’t believe they’d really do, what they repeatedly told us they will do
If you want to go stick your head in sand, literally no one is stopping you.
But stop throwing sand in our faces and telling us it’s preferable.
We’re letting them build accommodations on an existing base and setup training routines. Didn’t research this, not a single article, jkust went full-on: “fAscIsM!!!”?
https://apnews.com/article/idaho-qatar-us-air-force-base-fc1506584e7833dbde3e16fe8613b6b4
Yeah, bribing Trump with a shitty plane greased the wheels, but this is normal. We train allied naval pilots from all over the planet in Pensacola. I worked on base, saw troops from all over the globe. Perhaps Qatari is not our ally?
Major Non-NATO Ally (MNNA) status: In March 2022, President Joe Biden officially designated Qatar as an MNNA.
OP presents a fact. Lemmy, confronted with a fact they don’t like: FUCK YOU! So, your world view is as informed as a conservative, just the opposite?
My most influential teacher was our science teacher from 1st-6th grade. Every year she would start with defining the difference between fact and opinion, how to discern the difference. You would have failed that class, as an adult.
And if you have any doubts where my politics lay, my history is free to read. Here’s some advice from just yesterday, talking about how to legally shoot the fuckers. Fuck me, can’t believe I’m not banned from the entire site for talking about armed violence against fascists.
ICE won’t really do what they say they, relax guy
Wild how many times people give fascists the benefit of the doubt…
Fuck does this have to do with ICE? Did you reply to the wrong post?
Once again, facts are presented, lemmy cannot discern the difference in an opinion.
Nope, but now we know you never got to analogies n school…
youre gonna have to ask someone else to explain things now. You’re not understanding any of this and getting belligerent.
This is exactly like talking to a trumpet
Dude, I hate Trump and MAGA too … but please look at the actual info.
He is right though. Qatar is getting access to a part of a US base to train with planes they got from the US. Here is a 1 min YT short explaining the situation: https://youtube.com/shorts/p1bH0Q1LA-c
This is like when project 2025 leaked and everyone said “don’t worry, that’s just a goof”…
And the concern is what exactly? Letting allies train on our military base? Spell it out.
Same reason we shouldn’t let any other far right religious extremist government have military personal on US soil…
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/qatar
allies
The point is they shouldn’t be allies.
America of all places shouldn’t have any authoritarian monarchies as allies, you’ll probably never guess why…
An excuse used to commit atrocities before was that it was not illegal because it happend outside their legal jurisdiction.
This situation opens up a ton more wiggle room.
That could be a simple, well we didn’t do the illegal acts, they did and they are under their own nations jurisdiction (as is often the case for military on foreign land)
Or a more complex secret trade of prisoners where detained from Qatar are brought to the US for their soldiers to practice legal torture while Americans are send to Qatar where US troops also commit legal torture.
It does not need to make total sense as long as the question can be spun around “how is this legal” as a distraction for the actual ethical horrors they purposely employ.
America is good at killing people. Teaching other country how to kill is quite American too.
Please look into this. The comment is removed as misinfornation while it corrects misinformation.
I have recovered it for now. As at least the public accessible informations are only indicating a training facility.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Glad we cleared that up, but I’m still not getting a paycheck.
More like a temporary terrorist training center.
Yeah, because terrorists, once trained on F-15s, can go back to their caves and pull out their own F-15s. Along with maintenance crews, parts and armament logistics, actual armaments, all that.
Want to see jihadis work modern military gear? LOL, those dumbshits crashed at least one Black Hawk. I saw a video where the guy in the background is trying to clear an American M4 by banging the stock on the ground while looking down the muzzle. Nothing dramatic, his turban popped off and he crumpled.
Or are we going with, “All Arabs are terrorists.”?
Tbf mortaring an AR for an FTE is common, they likely observed a US guy doing it at some point, and it’s extremely rare for the round to discharge during it, BUT also it’s possible (like above) so point it in a safe direction lol.
But Americans never needed foreigners to teach them how to destroy, pillage and terrorise the world, ray. And they’re perhaps the best at it!
Yeah, we train naval aviators from all over the world in Pensacola. That’s our claim to fame. I didn’t serve, but I worked on base and saw allied troops of all sorts.
Guess the real question is if America is funding this or the Qatari’s bought a ticket to ride with the jumbo jet bribe.
This is exactly “America First” which was never about Americans but about deception and control.
Donald trump considers himself America.
He puts himself first, therefore America is first.
The rest of us aren’t in his picture.
I’m pretty sure it was meant to read “President First, America!!!”.
Truthful answer? No not at all, but if you call it what it really is people won’t vote for you.
I honestly might vote for an America last party
Ok let’s do it. America 257th! Our policy is to give everything away to foreigners except $5.
Your number is recognizing a lot of controversy.
1 vote for budnugget next election
Last I checked d, I throught having foreign military bases on American soil was considered un-American because we’re strong enough without them?
Looks like DEI Dostoevsky thinks America is weak.
The headlines are exaggerated. It is not a base, but a few buildings for training on a US military Base (Mountain Home in Idaho) as part of a foreign sales agreement for the F-15QA varient they purchased. Many other militaries have similar agreements and facilities, like Germany out of Holloman in New Mexico.
Still not a good look to be quid pro quoing with a fancy new Boeing and training centers, but it’s far from "a foreign military base on US soil. Hell, even your standard foreign embassy in the US is more distinctly foreign than this facility.
Fair enough.
In Qatar’s defense, last time Trump was in office Jared Kushner went to the Qatar embassy, trying to get them to buy some real estate off him. They mistook it for a genuine business deal and declined, so Kushner complained to Trump, who sanctioned them for it. The sanctions lasted until Biden took office. Apparently, someone in Qatar’s government said if they had realized it was shakedown, they would have just payed.
It’s Trump First!
