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    Any web based alternatives? App stores aren’t needed here and it’s a lot harder to stop a website.

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      Until Google revokes publishing privileges for side-loading applications. I think we’ll have to go further and get used to making PWAs and regular websites.

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        side-loading

        You mean “installing normally.” “Sideloading” is fucking anti-property-rights loaded language.

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            Not just China, also common in south America. Huawei still has a large market share there and their phones don’t have gapps since Trump banned American companies from doing business with Huawei

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          The issue with this is that like 95% of android devices run android with gapps and re-imaging your phone is becoming increasingly more difficult as manufacturers lock down their bootloaders. Normies who aren’t technical are not gonna want to mess with that shit. I’m not saying this to instill hopelessness but highlighting that it’s a challenge.

          For censorship circumvention, mainstream tech is gonna continue to be increasingly useless. We need to educate people about these matters and also try to encourage people to lean heavily into decentralised comms like lora/meshtastic

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          Steve Jobs just didn’t have the right foresight. PWA’s were a solution when the web was supposed to be the future of applications distribution. If he knew native apps were still the future and in app advertising and microtransactions were going to be where all was at, he would never have pushed PWA’s. Steve was a salesman first and foremost

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          He believed if he made quality products, that the stock price increases all the soulless capitalists demanded would follow. Which of course they did. Then Tim Apple took over, and quality went out the window in favor of stock buybacks. Kind of like Boeing.

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          Right? A well protected browser is about the best tool in this shi-nternet future.

          Back before iOS had apps, webapp devs were clever AF. There was Beejive web for multi-IM and all sorts of clever stuff.

          One can still put an icon for webapps on the home screen, and the OS even displays it as a full screen app. (Android has similar but not as elegant.)

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        Google started using buzzwords of sideloading as to make a boogeyman security issue, to get people to side with them. its just installing, other than thier main store.

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        Allow vendors to completely control what apps run on your phone and banning websites and PWAs becomes trivial for them. Browsers are apps.

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        Yeah, maybe it would be in our interests to make all government communications public access. If it isn’t a matter happening outside our borders, have it open. Maybe a classification for certain discussions that requires they be released in a timely manner, and when reviewed by a 3rd party if any information is attempted to be hidden they are immediately removed from their position and an investigation starts as to whether the offense should be criminal.

        The timely manner would have to be monitored as in “we are going to performing a drug raid” they get a warrant that allocates them 2 days to have discussions pertaining to that topic, organize and execute it. Then release all communications immediately following. If they don’t believe they can perform it in that time they need to submit it in their warrant request as to the reason why, time period, and date the information will be made public.

        If we wrote strict laws on it, the judges would be held accountable for giving out warrants brazenly, and the executive branch would be kept in check by such

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    Someone recommended Kagi in another thread yesterday and that night I finally became 100% google free. Search was the last big hurdle. I was literally the biggest google fanboy. I had google home devices, google wifi, I wanted all their devices, had all their services, everything was set up and integrated. De-googling was fucking hard but I did it and I’m super proud and I’ve learned so much about how tech works setting up my replacement services and devices. Fuck you Google.

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      How was search and not the usual maps the hardest? The search is what I feel like most people switch first.

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        Idk I started using organicmaps (comaps now) long long ago. I guess I don’t have a great fundamental understanding of search. Are not most other search engines just hopping on the back of google search engines? I honestly don’t know. Its not an area I’ve spent a lot of time learning about - or maybe I’m just a backwards dude haha.

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          No, that’s fair play! I think you were just ahead of the curve with ditching google maps :D I use a combo of OSMAnd, Comaps, and Magic Earth (not open source, but has live traffic data).

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    Oh no, vulnerable 🥺 they need DEI? They need to be a protected class? 🥺

    Surveillance is suddenly wrong when it’s the peasants surveiling wannabe samurai? 🥺

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      Can I just be “that guy” and point out the CEO of Google is “Sundar Puchai”?

      Who do you think Trump is coming for, you fucking idiot? It’s not guys like me named “David”.

      I hate this. I hate that they are targeting “minorities”, or Hispanics, or Indian folks… But many people in charge who are part of these groups don’t even care. They think they are special. You’re money doesn’t make you immune, you complete goddamn waste of oxygen.

      We’re trying to fucking help you. Stop condemning fellow human beings for the sake of profits. You are damning your children, and your family. You are selling them for gains. We hate you, and so do your children.

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        Rich Brahman caste Indians, or similar believe they are the ones most similar to rich white people. At least if you looked into Indian caste system, they are notoriously conservative and probably racist too. Usha, is also part of it

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      They need to be protected alright, with thick concrete walls, iron bars, locks, and guards. Nobody in or out for a few decades oughta keep them nice and safe

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    “You just uninstalled Chrome We’re sorry to see you go. Please help us improve Google Chrome by filling out this short survey. Your feedback is appreciated.” And…no link to any survey provided, so I can’t tell them why they can go fuck themselves. I still use Youtube non premium, with an ad blocker, but I’m open to any suggestions for a replacement site…

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    uwu they are working under very hash conditions to terrorise children and clother civilians

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    Calling masked, armed, armored thugs and terrorists with a disregard for the law a “vulnerable group” is a bit thick, isn’t it?

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    Vulnerable my aunts fanny. They aggressively terrorize everywhere they go. Go everywhere armed to the teeth and are not in any way shape or form threatened with anything or anyone that could harm them sufficiently to put them into a threatened category. This is just google telling us whose side they are on