• quick_snail@feddit.nl
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        4 days ago

        But they’re not banning downloading and installing programs. What are they blocking, specifically?

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              3 days ago

              It’s not a suggestion for an alternative. Sideloading is not even blocked: unblocked apps remain sideloadable. Sideloading is not “fucking anti-property-rights loaded language” & the word existed a while before Android OS.

              They’re just being uninformed drama-queens as usual.

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                3 days ago

                It is a fairly loaded word, implying it’s an alternative method of loading data to the primary, more actively vendor-supported method. Those methods you previously mentioned are actively subverting the primary application install methods (Google Play) and are 1 minor software update from being completely axed. Name-calling an opposing “they” is not quite productive.

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                  2 days ago

                  Name-calling an opposing “they”

                  “They” is now a dirty word?

                  Sideload wasn’t loaded language before Android OS and still isn’t: it’s a bogus, overreactive claim.

                  All of them are valid install methods. Developers will always need a way to load their experimental apps not yet suitable for release: they won’t block the methods they need to do that.

                  Clear use cases for casual users exist for

                  • deterring them from installing software by bad actors that’s known to be malicious
                  • verifying non-malicious software hasn’t been modified possibly maliciously before installing it.

                  “They” are drama-queens, because despite legitimate use cases to address actual problems posing high-cost risks to users (even as Google turns out to be a shitty authority) & clear documentation that power users can still install any package they want, they choose to catastrophize.

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                    2 days ago

                    “They” is a pronoun. Hope that helps clear things up.

                    Sideload wasn’t loaded language before Android OS and still isn’t: it’s a bogus, overreactive claim.

                    The term “sideload” was coined by i-drive, a bunk dot-com contributor who applied to trademark the term because they were corporate ghouls. Their version of sideloading involved giving them a link to a file on the internet, and they would store it for you, so you didn’t have to download it yourself. The idea behind sideloading is just transferring a fucking file. It’s loaded language, despite whatever freedom or restrictions an implementation provides. Call it what it is, a file transfer.

                    Clear use cases for casual users exist for

                    What about the clear use case for a FOSS developer who doesn’t want to go through the Google authority for validation? What happens when Google thinks an app is dangerous when it shows no clear malicious behavior? What happens when Google enforces the idea that blocking ads is malicious?

                    (even as Google turns out to be a shitty authority)

                    In my opinion, what a massive understatement.

                    Edit: Put the documentation where your mouth is. Show me the “clear documentation that power users can still install any package they want,” because F-Droid would like to have a word with you. While you’re reading that, do take care to note that Google already has a service to protect against malicious applications. They don’t need to limit application installs based on developer registration. They need to make a profit for their shareholders. They’re corporate ghouls.

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          4 days ago

          They’re banning programs from being installed unless the installation has their consent