Ticket the damn manufacturer. They need to be made to understand not to put substandard devices into public hands
Impound the car too!
Sho nuff
Boot it
I think you can stop robotaxis by just putting a traffic cone on its hood.
Yeah but that’s easy to take off. The least you could do is epoxy it to the hood of the clanker.
Wouldn’t spray painting the sensors be easier and more effective?
Not necessarily. You’d be surprised how many sensors and cameras have coatings on them which prevents spray paints from sticking (before it dries it just slides off)
Oh in that case we should just boot it and call it a day.
The entire reason they’re deploying AI in the battlefields is to avoid accountability for those firing. The lack of accountability is an intended feature, not a bug.
A troubling conclusion I hadn’t yet come to. God damn.
They’re not being subtle about it. The weapons companies are offering it as a selling point at the conventions.
Great RoboCop with better weapons.
Considering it’s California the uturn was illegal only because the cop said so.
Issue a ticket to the owner of the car. Let them contest in court that they were not driving it.
It’s easy just tow it!!! Let god sort it out because the tech is not there yet
Surprised Pikachu!
Prepare to run people over!
Aircraft must have pilots in command.
Radio stations must have control operators.
Pedestrian manglers can just roam free!
Even a train, the thing that runs on rails has operators
I could see a subway train or other “No other traffic runs on or crosses these rails” being automated, but with normal pulling freight down the rails trains, somebody needs to be on board the damn thing.
May a firefighter tear the cars in half using the jaws of life.
How did you make these legal and not put in place a process for this? Absolutely corrupt incompetence.
What is this “Airbud” rules.
Cant give it a ticket cause my ticket book doesn’t say anything about “robots” breaking laws.
“Since there was no human driver, a ticket couldn’t be issued (our citation books don’t have a box for “robot”),” reads the post.
The department said that it had alerted Waymo of the glitch
That’s not how it fucking works
How have you guys not bothered to prepare for this? It’s not the cop’s fault, but it is not a secret that there are Waymo cars in San Francisco. How is this something that nobody thought of?
Last year, California governor Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill that allows police officers to issue a “notice of noncompliance” if a driverless car breaks traffic laws. The law goes into effect in July 2026.
Oh, pardon me. So you’re on top of it.
The bill was introduced by assemblymember Phil Ting of San Francisco amid several incidents in the city, including driverless cars blocking traffic, dragging a pedestrian, interfering with firetrucks, and entering active crime scenes.
And your plan was to call up Waymo and ask them politely to improve their tech please? Or, that becomes the plan as of 2026?
With the new law, first responders can order a company to move autonomous vehicles out of an area, and the company has two minutes to direct its cars to leave or avoid that area.
The San Bruno police department, in response to people who believed officers were being lenient, reaffirmed: “There is legislation in the works that will allow officers to issue the company notices.”
My guy these cars went on the road EIGHT FUCKING YEARS AGO
The big invasion of Ukraine was years in the future, Covid hadn’t happened and wasn’t going to any time soon, Obama had just stepped down, CALIFORNIA EXPLAIN
You finally found out how long it takes to get laws into effect bro.
Obama was elected in 2008 and took office in 2009. The biggest overhaul to American health care since FDR went into effect on March 23, 2010, and that was with the US congress involved, which always inevitably turns everything into more of a shit show than it needs to be.
You can do it, you just have to be something other than dysfunctional wreckage to do it.
Just tell the cops they’re allowed to stab the tires and have it towed. The problem will fix itself one way or another.
You’ve got the right spirit but I think it’s unlikely that the car would realize its tires have been destroyed, I think it would just keep driving around just with less control over its actions which might not be the best.
Give them a little hand-carried version of The Grappler, and then if Waymo has some kind of concern about what has happened to the brakes and suspension and all sorts of shit that is broken now, just give 'em one of these.
Naw. Cone ‘em and then tow them- at owner’s expense.
I’m not going to stop you, but the car definitely knows the tyre status. Most modern cars have tyre pressure sensing.
If the waymo hadnt been painted white they would have unloaded a clip into it instead
The state’s allowed to ban the company from the roads if they bother too many people or officials—a fairly enormous stick.
Make the whole world’s governments mad? Investors won’t be too happy. Huggge stick.
It does break from our “one immediate fine/ticket for one infraction” paradigm so I understand why it looks bad.
Gosh can you imagine if they drop our numbers from ~seven Californians killed on our roads every day to [far] fewer… (guy can dream, obvy they’re not perfect)
Dude, you can’t just penalize a corporation. That would be commiesocialism or something.
But exactly! You guys wanted hypercapitalism, now you complain?
You wouldn’t molotovcocktail a car (just because it’s putting everyone’s safety at risk simply by existing)
Surely there is a leftist or unhoused person that could be scapegoated and punished for this.
I believe the federal gubment just declared being anti capitalism is considered an act of terror or something.
If FDR was still alive, they’d execute him for “terrorism”
According to the government, “Corporations are people too.”
I’ll believe a corporation is a person when The Texas department of corrections executes one.
I’ll believe a corporation is a person when one is successfully murdered. I don’t care who does it.
Herds/corporations dissipate: only individuals can truly-die.
Groups have been hiding that pertinent-fact from discussion for ages, now…
It’s time that we created legally-distinct categories for those who are only aggregates, like herds/corporations, vs individuals-who-can-die.
That’d take spine, though, which politics-the-arena weeds-out/prevents-from-having-any-say.
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And just like real people. They’re dead when they have no more money.
And yet, they can sell their debt
That’s only because the liberals government took away Americans’ right to buy and sell people. Gotta bundle debt and people together for good business.
Republicans love to point to those days to claim they’re not racist today
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Back then, both in the US and the UK, the liberal philosophers of the times considered it an infringement on property rights to restrict the buying and selling of slaves. Liberalism: A Counter-History goes over the debates at the time.
“Since there was no human driver, a ticket couldn’t be issued (our citation books don’t have a box for “robot”),” reads the post.
Did nobody think to just write “waymo” and use the company HQ as the driver’s address?
Better yet, ask the waymo car for a drivers license. None present? Impound.
The government is great
Easy, Just impound it. When they have to deal with going to get them in person, they’ll stop the illegal shit
I can see rego plates in the picture, are they not linked to anyone? Ticket the owner, it’s not rocket science.
Law says the driver is ticketed for driving infractions.
So if your car gets ticketed by a speed camera without the driver being identified, who do they send the ticket to?
They send it to the registered owner and treat it as a parking violation, which does not go on your driving record. The ticket also has a “it wasn’t me” box you can tick to get the fine removed when you mail it in.
And boot it to prevent repeat offense.
It’d likely require a different statute. Like how running a red light is a different penalty if the driver is pulled over by a cop versus the vehicle owner being caught by a stoplight camera.
They’re remote cars. I would ticket the operator, even if its just a corporation. Let the courts figure out if it applies
This is the right answer for issues with driverless cars. Ticket the registrant/owner. The State shouldn’t have to fight with a manufacturer to ensure legality in a vehicle’s programming, that’s a losing battle that will cost ridiculous amounts of taxpayer money. Fine vehicle operators so they’ll stop buying vehicles that incur costly fines. Losing customers is the only thing a corporation will listen to.
Well also those cars are likely insured as the state law requires and if they keep getting citations, even if those fines are easy for the company to pay off, their insurance should hopefully skyrocket causing more lasting and impactful damage
