(And I use “Free” loosely because I do pay for Prime Video, so it went from paid to much more expensive)

Yaaarrh

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    Is it possible that season one is free and season two cost money? That’s a common tactic.

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    Ten years ago my position on piracy was broadly, “do it if you want, but don’t act like you’re justified or ethical”.

    Now I’m convinced piracy is more ethical than feeding these monsters.

    I also don’t consider it a change in my own values. It’s a change in how fucking awful and in need of dismantling the Corporation has got.

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      Absolutely agree. When I got out of college, I was like “I have some money finally, I’ll support the shows and movies I want to watch by actually buying them online outright and streaming everything else legally!”

      And then several of the things I “bought” got removed from my library several years later.

      Then instead of 2 or 3 streaming platforms, there were suddenly 6.

      Then every streaming service kept shuffling around my favorite shows.

      And suddenly, the experience of paying for the content I wanted to watch became way too cumbersome.

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      ARR YE MATEY! TAKE TO THE SEAS, YE LANDLUBBER, AND PAY FOR YOUTUBE PREMIUM! ARR! TIS A FINE SERVICE, AND TIS ONLY $15 A MONTH! ARR! A PIRATE’S LIFE FOR ME!

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        It’s like the grocery stores that have digital price tags on them that they can adjust at anytime. They totally going to do surge pricing and other bullshit. I complete expect oh you picked up that item? Purchase just gotta up as soon as it’s touched

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          I see where your coming from but not everyone has the space to seed a torrent. I think those that use stremio and understand torrenting will one day, if they have enough storage contribute to seeding. I’m running on 256gb here T-T

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              Caching a torrent isn’t leeching. Like the other person said, it actually helps because it prevents multiple people from doing a hit and run. The torrent only needs to get cached once, and then everyone can just directly download that file, bypassing the torrent entirely.

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                Caching a torrent requires downloading, no? What guarantee do you have that they’re seeding that leech?

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                  There is no guarantee, because they’re not seeding. There’s one hit-and-run, then the torrent is cached on a server for anyone to directly download. Again, IMO one hit-and-run is still better than thousands.

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          not true, it does sort of the opposite:

          debrid services cache torrents in order to provide them at high speed to clients (that’s why they aren’t free: they need data storage).

          this is a good thing, because it means the swarm is only taxed once per file, instead of constantly by potentially hundreds of streamers.

          from stremio’s FAQs:

          How Debrid Services Work with Stremio

          Stremio itself is a media center application that aggregates content from various sources through add-ons. Debrid services enhance this experience by:

          1. Converting limited or slow hosting links into high-speed premium links
          2. Providing access to higher quality sources that might otherwise be unavailable
          3. Bypassing throttling and download limitations imposed by file hosts
          4. Offering cached torrents for instant streaming without waiting for peers
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            So you’re telling me that they’re offering a paid service for free. That makes me trust and want to use it even less.

            EDIT: Turns out that stremoo doesn’t use debrid. That’s something a stremio user can configure. By default, you do leech torrents and never seed then.

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              Stremio is free, the service you need to cache the torrents (Real-Debrid) isn’t. It’s about $/€3 per month, which is still cheaper than a VPN (which you need for torrents but not for Stremio/Debrid).

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                Wait, so if I get this right, stremio has nothing to do with debrid on its own. So if you just use Stremio, as is, you are leeching a torrent you don’t seed?

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                  Correct. Without a Debrid service, you stream the torrent directly from the tracker. It’s also slow AF for all but the most popular content so you really don’t want to go without.

                  (In my experience most torrents are already cached on Debrid, BTW, so there’s no hit and run since you’re just downloading the file directly from a server.)

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    Now is a great time to look into VPNs, 1337x, and qBittorrent. And of course Jellyfin.

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      or stremio + Torrentio + Real debrid, this is an easier method for those used to streaming without space on their pc

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      Nah fuck all that. Just get Stremio + Torrentio and pair it with Real-Debrid. No fucking around with downloading torrents and building a library. Just pick what you want to watch, and watch it. Works like any other streaming platform, except everything’s in one place.

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        The problem with Stremio is that it relies on torrents, but only caches the content you’re watching. Essentially, it puts you into a permanent leecher mode, and rarely contributes any meaningful seeding because the content is deleted shortly after you’re done watching it.

        Stremio users are the libertarians of the piracy world. They’re staunchly independent, but also completely reliant on the infrastructure that seeders have set up and maintain. They want all of their content available conveniently, without actually putting in any of the “pay it forward” work that piracy relies on to stay healthy.

        Essentially, if everyone used Stremio, nobody would be able to use Stremio. Stremio is only possible because of the people who actually seed.

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          Hear, hear. If you leech without seeding you are essentially killing the torrent.

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            I’d argue that you’re not really hurting the torrent, since most torrents are already pre-cached. It only needs to be cached once for thousands to enjoy the file.

            Yeah it’s not ideal, but one hit and run isn’t going to make a dent in the grand scheme of things.

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        Problem with that is, what happens when Stremio gets shut down like every other illegal streaming platform to date? What happens when they no longer want to host the stuff I like?

        I like having the files locally, so that when streaming platforms die, og just decide not to waste server space on the stuff I like, I can still watch the shows and movies that are no longer avaliable anywhere.

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          Stremio isn’t going away, just like Qbittorrent isn’t going away.

          It doesn’t actually host any illegal content. Stremio alone is nothing more than a film and TV database. It’s not illegal to make a database.

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          I won’t really fight anyone suggesting “Yarr-harr” approaches, but if you’re just looking for something to watch and legality becomes a hurdle as you describe: Libraries offer a huge backlog of stuff (watched some old Disney stuff I’d targeted, without sending the mouse money) as well as some digital services. It should be pretty easy to rip the DVDs they have on offer too.

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          Stremio has nothing to do with it, it’s just the frontend.

          but you’d be right to make the same comment about real-debrid so ultimately your point is a good one

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        Source?

        Also (and this is a genuine question): Why would I care? They don’t earn anything from me. Does their political affiliation matter when it comes to sourcing copyrighted material?

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          Some folks don’t wanna experience hate speech in comments and usernames and shit just to get at torrents.

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      Yeah, there’s stuff under the subscription and stuff you pay for (although you can pay for anything if you’re not a subscriber iirc)

      It gives them a perverse incentive to remove shows from the subscription tier if lots of people are watching it. You also get shows where the first few seasons are in the sub, and then suddenly switches to pay for.

      They’re an easy cancel.

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    The Amazon Prime model is the scummiest. At least Netflix doesn’t bait you into a subscription just to then tell you actually the show you wanted to see costs even more.

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      To play devil’s advocate:

      The Netflix equivalent of this is that the show just disappears (the Marvel shows) or you get the first seasons and not the last or even the last and not the first (at one time Prime had part of Lucifer and Netflix had the rest).

      The only reason that it went from free to paid (instead of just disappearing) is that they lost the licence for streaming it under Prime Video but they didn’t lose the licence for selling it.

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        I doesn’t really make a difference whether it was the actual platform or a higher decision; the end result is pissed off fans that turn to piracy instead of giving you money. Then those fans give you even less in the future. There will always be some that just say ‘fuck it’ and pay up, but it’s diminishing returns.

        This bullshit is exactly how pirates are born.

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        Why do they even have limited time licenses? This doesn’t happen for music streaming services.

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          The number of songs on places that are ‘not available in my region’ despite being saved previously when played might dispute that.

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            The really crazy thing to me is when a game is updated to remove copyrighted songs they lost a license for.

            That was apparently never a problem back in the days of CDs, but now they have to do that or else the poor music companies will go bankrupt.

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            That’s the main reason I switched to Navidrome and downloaded a ton of flacs. No one’s stopping me from drinking whiskey in the bathtub listening to sad music during my monthly breakdown.

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          Because the IP holders don’t want to give out licenses in perpetuity. They want to renegotiate and increase the price.

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          Because music streaming services compete (for the most part) based on experience and features not content. This happened after the market plummeted for music sales. TV and movies are still in the stage where everyone is competing with content by having exclusives while their services suck dick with few features, horrible UX, and ads. Im sure at some point they’ll go the route of music and games where youre not forced to sign up to a specific service to see a specific show, but who knows when that’ll happen.

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            This was reality when Netflix was the only streaming service. We had that already and it devolved into what we have now

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        I mean, for Lucifer it made sense, since first three seasons were under Fox (and different licensing in different regions). God, I wish Netflix didn’t “save” that show. At least it would have ended on a cliff hanger instead of a total destruction of the entire show. shakes fist angrily 4 years after the show has ended

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      There is a subset of shows and movies unavailable on a Netflix subscription with ads.