how do you secure it in your roof without damaging shingles?
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With just a little pre-planning when the weather is ok, you can install some brackets or fall harness mounts under the shingles.
Solar panel mounts would also work. There’s plenty of things designed to mount to the roof while still maintaining water proofing.
Most things that mount to the roof just drill straight though everything and then add waterproofing sealant at the top of the hole/fastener anyway
No, most things slide under a shingle so the water never touches the fasteners.
Some things screw right through with sealant on top, but that’s not the best way to do it, cause sealant will break down over time.
I agree with you that it is definitely not the best way, by far. However, of all the things I have seen installed on a roof, almost all of them have been installed this way. I think it also depends where you are and what kind of roof you have.
Maybe a series of ropes behind it that go over the peak and hook around a drainpipe?
Don’t hook anything to a vent stack and especially do not hook anything to an appliance exhaust. You are asking for problems.
Best way to do this is with a Christmas tree stand, secured with ropes over the top of the peak and off to the sides. Don’t penetrate the shingles.
Clark Griswald approved.
Another added touch would be to park a big ugly motor home in the driveway
So that previously healthy tree, which took a decade or more to reach that height, gets to die for a gimmick.
All Christmas trees get to die for a gimmick. What do you think the tree farms are for?
Actually here in germany it has been a thing forever to get a tree with roots and all. You water it a little while it is with you and then plant it again in the ground.
Obviously this doesnt work for really large trees, but still.
Bizarrely it’s probably more eco friendly than not having the tradition since those tree farms probably wouldn’t exist otherwise. It’s not like the meat industry, it’s probably net positive on emissions.
Though, it would be better if we just reduced urban sprawl and deforestation of natural forests, etc., but that’s how it goes I guess.
My sister in law’s family owns a christmas tree farm in Maine. They do replant what they cut and more, and its just like 3 people running it since it’s all in the family on owned family land, so not bad for over 80 acres of evergreens
Its definitely more eco friendly, the alternative is plastic trees which are worse for the environment.
Christmas trees capture CO2 while they mature and are biodegradable/renewable
We have compost programs in my area, and they usually offer free christmas tree disposal. Some programs mulch them, and I think the Parks&Rec department uses the mulch to maintain parks.
I don’t really see a big downside.
Absolutely no downside, we should be advocating for natural trees vs the fake ones.
Though, i must admit I’m guilty of temptation – the thought of not having to wrangle lights with a prelit tree does entice me (i haven’t given in though ✊)
Yeah, fair point. I guess the “before” pic looked enough like a forest that this just really bummed me out.
I guarantee you that’s a tree farm. I’d gladly be proved wrong
The uniform height, spacing, and lush branches are a key clue. I wish I took pictures on my last trip so I could show you what I’m talking about, but I was traveling through a place undergoing logging. In the forest, like you’re thinking, the lower branches are dead because the crowns are crowding out the light. In the understory, lower light plants thrive, ones who can’t really take full sun all day
I say this to hopefully assuage your feelings about the picture. The tree did what it was meant to do, and in a spectacular way
Thanks! Your comment did help. Being an environmentalist is a special kind of torture. The idea that the climate change our species created is eventually going to wipe us out is actually kind of comforting. Earth will bounce back in a few million years and there will be almost zero evidence we were here at all. It’s genuinely a nice thought.
man i wanna see earth of just nature :/
I feel like that makes the problem seem much worse, and not better?
What problem? It’s a tree from a tree farm that was grown for this purpose.
I meant that lightheartedly, though I do think that doing 5+ year grows on agricultural lots for purely gimmick purposes isn’t too great, at least from a resource management and ecology standpoint. I’m not here to argue against christmas trees though, I just think LePoisson’s rebuttal that one instance of a thing isn’t a problem because we do lots of instances of that thing is logically flawed. I’m here to argue against the bad logic, not the trees.
Fair, I misread the tone. What it does to the soil, I couldn’t say. Though assuming they aren’t burned it’s probably decent carbon sequestering. I’d guess a tree farm isn’t all that different than a forest.
Colin furze style https://youtu.be/zIJgDW09Lns
About 6m.
