• cley_faye@lemmy.world
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    Be sure to tell this to “AI”. It would be a shame if this was a technical nonsense law to be.

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    Is that after or before it has to tell you it may cause cancer?

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      Hi there, Cancer Robot here! Excellent question iopq! We state that we cause cancer first, as is tradition.

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    I am of the firm opinion that if a machine is “speaking” to me then it must sound a cartoon robot. No exceptions!

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    Yeah for real, what does this mean exactly? All forms of machine learning? That’s a lot of computers at this moment, it’s just we only colloquially call the chat bot versions “AI”. But even that gets vague do reactive video game NPCs get counted as “AI?” Or all of our search algorithms and spell check programs?

    At that point what’s the point? The disclosure would become as meaningless as websites asking for cookies or the number of things known to cause cancer in the state of California.

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    bleep bloop… I am a real human being who loves doing human being stuff like breathing and existing

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    Same old corporations will ignore the law, pay a petty fine once a year, and call it the cost of doing business.

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      I mean, we call the software that runs computer players in games AI, so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        The AI chatbot brainrot is way worse tbh.someone legit said to me why don’t chatgpt cure cancer like wtf

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          As if taking all of 4-chan, scrambling it around a little, and pouring the contents out would lead to a cure for cancer. lmao

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        Do we? Aren’t they just bots? Like I’m not looking at an NPC and calling it AI.

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      USA is run by capitalist grifters. There is no objective meaning under this regime. It’s all just misleading buzzwords and propaganda.

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    If you ask ChatGPT, it says it’s guidelines include not giving the impression it’s a human. But if you ask it be less human because it is confusing you, it says that would break the guidelines.

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      ChatGPT doesn’t know its own guidelines because those aren’t even included in its training corpus. Never trust an LLM about how it works or how it “thinks” because fundamentally these answers are fake.

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    It would be nice if this extended to all text, images, audio and video on news websites. That’s where the real damage is happening.

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      Actually seems easier (probably not at the state level) to mandate cameras and such digitally sign any media they create. No signature or verification, no trust.

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        The problem is that “AI” doesn’t actually exist. For example, Photoshop has features that are called “AI”. Should every designer be forced to label their work if they use some “AI” tool.

        This is a problem with making violent laws based on meaningless language.

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        No signature or verification, no trust

        And the people that are going to check for a digital signature in the first place, THEN check that the signature emanates from a trusted key, then, eventually, check who’s deciding the list of trusted keys… those people, where are they?

        Because the lack of trust, validation, verification, and more generally the lack of any credibility hasn’t stopped anything from spreading like a dumpster fire in a field full of dumpsters doused in gasoline. Part of my job is providing digital signature tools and creating “trusted” data (I’m not in sales, obviously), and the main issue is that nobody checks anything, even when faced with liability, even when they actually pay for an off the shelve solution to do so. And I’m talking about people that should care, not even the general public.

        There are a lot of steps before “digitally signing everything” even get on people’s radar. For now, a green checkmark anywhere is enough to convince anyone, sadly.

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          An individual wouldn’t verify this but enough independent agencies or news orgs would probably care enough to verify a photo. For the vast majority we’re already too far gone to properly separate fiction an reality. If we can’t get into a courtroom and prove that a picture or video is fact or fiction then we’re REALLY fucked.

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          I think there’s enough people who care about this that you can just provide the data and wait for someone to do the rest.

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            I’d like to think like that too, but it’s actually experience with large business users that led me to say otherwise.

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          It could be a feature of web browsers. Images would get some icon indicating the valid signature, just like browsers already show the padlock icon indicating a valid certificate. So everybody would be seeing the verification.

          But I don’t think it’s a good idea, for other reasons.

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        I get what you’re going for but this would absolutely wreck privacy. And depending on how those signatures are created, someone could create a virtual camera that would sign images and then we would be back to square one.

        I don’t have a better idea though.

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          The point is to give photographers a “receipt” for their photos. If you don’t want the receipt it would be easy to scrub from photo metadata.

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          Privacy concern for sure, but given that you can already tie different photos back to the same phone from lens artifacts, I don’t think this is going to make things much worse than they already are.

          someone could create a virtual camera that would sign images

          Anyone who produces cameras can publish a list of valid keys associated with their camera. If you trust the manufacturer, then you also trust their keys. If there’s no trusted source for the keys, then you don’t trust the signature.

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    But Peter Thiel said regulating AI will bring the biblical apocalypse. ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ