• ceenote@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I’m a millennial and I hate the verb “adulting” more every time I hear it.

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    i know this is ugh but irl my neighbors run a small engine repair shop with, no joke, 10 snowblowers in the alley between our houses. they rent. i own. i politely remind them their engines are, in this regard, mere feet away from my living room or bedroom depending on time of day. i dont know what to do other than that. (nothing i can do an im ok with that just ranting) they are otherwise kind, social, fine people. its just randomly “brrrrraaaaap” while im sleeping early due to a cold, or just a cozy saturday. sigh.

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    I don’t think the people who are likely to become evicted due to poor decisions on their part, would be interested in taking a class in how not to become evicted.

    This Venn diagram has no overlap.

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      6 hours ago

      I suspect it’s an apt building that is quick to evict - when people plead ignorance to the rules “well you should have attended the FREE LEASE VIOLATIONS TRAINING DUH!”

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    I’ma take a wild guess - is this being posted in a college town? Because a lot of that looks like shit you would’ve needed to tell me when I was 19.

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        Yeah, that might be what’s happening. I live in the city next to a university, and there are a lot of students in certain apartment complexes here. Moreover, that was also the case where I lived when I was in college. The adjacent cities had lots of students.

        The owners of this building might also be actively advertising their apartments to students.

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    It says VOA at the bottom. Volunteers of America manages a ton of affordable and voucher-based properties around the country. Some of the people I’ve helped move into units with them have been on the streets for years and have zero living skills. A class like this could genuinely help someone stay housed who might otherwise lose their housing voucher and be back on the street

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      Yeah, I worked in a few affordable housing sites and the OP looks like something the on-site social workers cooked up.

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      13 hours ago

      It genuinely seems like it could have fantastic advice. I just wish they didn’t make it so incredibly condescending.

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        I served on the board of a Section 8 housing authority for a number of years.

        You would be amazed at the number of people who don’t understand that leases are legally binding contracts and there are actual, enforceable consequences for violating the conditions of it.

        “You guys can’t evict me.”

        “Uhhh, yeah, we can. It just so happens that hording 30 cats in your house and letting them soak every inch of the place with piss is a violation of the terms of your lease.”

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        It is blunt, for people who can’t understand anything else.

        I used to work for a nonprof helping the homeless, ran shelters, other programs.

        Some people are traumatized, some people are a bit mentally off, some people are more so just dense, stupid, cocky assholes to whom the concepts of rules and consequences just… fundamentally do not seem to register, who also continuously and obviously lie.

        Now this was more shelter oriented, but we helped move people into new housing too.

        If you can’t handle shelter rules, as in, you consistently violate them, we were a lot less eager to help those people into housing, because they can’t follow rules, and part of what we are supposed to be doing on our end is sending over people who can and will.

        Also, trust me, if you’ve ever been homeless, you will almost certainly develop a bit thicker skin than being offended by slightly impolite and blunt phrasing on a piece of paper, you will be dealing with a lot more serious shit than that basicslly all of the time, a lot more, extremely blunt and rude people than that, basically all the time.

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      How? It’s pretty standard for most of that stuff to be included in a lease agreement.

      Like, management is definitely an ass for how they communicated the information, but if the rules are in the lease and don’t violate your local tenant laws, then you have to follow them.

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    its probably helpful for the people it describes. not everyone understands how lease agreements work, even in the basic way the flyer talks about.

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    14 hours ago

    Gotta love renting. Help a friend get back on their feet for a bit after life throws them through the wringer?

    Too bad, so sad, your turn in the wringer.

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      I wonder if this is being posted around student housing.

      (Edit: OP just updated. Yeah - it’s a city right next to a college town.

      Given the language, adulting 101 talk, and the mention of a “community room,” this feels like it’s aimed at 18 year olds in student housing, or a city that revolves around a university.

      Having people not on lease crash in student housing can lead to a lot of frustration for students using shared spaces.

      I had some roommates have messy friends “crash” in their rooms for extended periods of time, and it ment that I had to effectively deal with a new shitty roommate that I didn’t sign up for. Not an uncommon thing.

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      Ok so what prevents everyone in the apartment doing this with a “cousin”. If you’re stuffing more people into the building then costs go up. Maintenance isn’t free.

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        Looks like it might be a building that has students in it. A lot of us probably had that college roommate that decided that their high school friend or the new person they were dating was going to visit and never leave.

        They didn’t need sanctuary, they just had zero boundaries and respect for the other people in the home. And young people aren’t always the best at resolving those situations with candor, so they fester.

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        Compared to rent, maintenance is basically free, typically about 1-2%. If we think that cost would double, for some reason, by adding another person, it still wouldn’t be that much. But it’s ridiculous to think that would even be the case, given that a sizeable portion of maintenance is not related to tenants at all.

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    All of a sudden I can see, more clearly, how “landlord” is a form of controlling the poor, like low wages is, it’s not just an imbalance in the current system where they’ve accidentally made the system entirely too heavy with investors and not rebalanced the system to be fair, that’s no accident. It’s a system and purposeful tool of oppression. They aren’t going to make housing more affordable or do anything about the fact “landlords” (landlords, corporations, Airbnb, owning houses) hold too much power. That’s by design. Capitalism creates slavery in insidious ways, until suddenly it’s not insidious, but by then it’s too late.

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      I don’t think capitalists think much beyond “I need more money and I don’t give a shit about anything else”. Sure, some are super fucking competent and scary as shit, but most are Zuckerbergs, Musks, and Bezos. Incompetent weirdos that managed to sit their ass on a somewhat stable asset and had others do all the labor for them.

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    This feels incredibly targeted to me… one of the residents must be a pit bull owner with a deadbeat cousin and some really good Tuesday nights.

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    That seems fairly reasonable. No one should have to put up with noisy neighbours stomping around all night or throwing house parties packing like sardines into overcrowded flats like it’s a bus in India or constantly emitted smells of dogshit, weed and asian food or be harassed for no reason or feel unsafe or otherwise disrupted in their own home or the surrounding infrastructure that they need to use as part of daily life like exits/entrances/walkways etc.

    It’s called the social contract.

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      asian food

      god forbid people season their fucking food. all foodstuffs must be boiled until grey and served with ketchup right?

      jfc

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        Yeah you’re right one of them is a smell some people can somehow stand because they live in it and it doesn’t make it any more appropriate to emit despite whatever bizarre rationalisations the people emitting the smell have.

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          I’m sure your food stinks to people who aren’t used to it. Why do you get to pass judgement on what’s appropriate there? I’m not Asian and the only issue I have with it is that it makes me hungry.

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            I meant weed lol.

            As for asian food, I think it’s a very well known fact that asian food has a smell that lingers and carries far more than most other cuisines commonly encountered in the english-speaking world. I don’t mind it so much but I think it is basic courtesy to be mindful of this and close the windows while cooking for at least a bit while cooking to avoid disrupting the neighbours and past a certain point it does become disruptive.

            Here’s my question, I’m not sure if it applies to you or is more general: Don’t folks have any sense of privacy? Do they not feel a bit weird broadcasting what they’re eating to the entire neighborhood? It’s kinda like those crazies that play videos on speaker on transport. It never even crossed my mind since childhood to use headphones to not disrupt others - the primary motivation was always that randoms have no business knowing what I listen to.

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              “asian food” covers billions of people from hundreds of cultures across dozens of countries. I am not convinced that reducing to it in this way is especially productive.

              Some ingredients do carry more than others, but like… garlic is one of them. Or bacon. No-one should feel like they need to take special measures to prevent people from smelling perfectly ordinary food, because to do so is an unreasonable imposition on day-to-day activities. Why should I have to keep my steamed-up windows closed so that someone walking by can be protected from the scourge of cumin?

              There are super-stinky foods that this doesn’t apply to, recognised even in the cultures which consume them as especially smelly and warranting special treatment, but “asian food” is way too broad to be that. And when it’s imposed by one culture on another it starts to sound discriminatory to me.

              Do they not feel a bit weird broadcasting what they’re eating to the entire neighborhood?

              No.

              It’s kinda like those crazies that play videos on speaker on transport. It never even crossed my mind since childhood to use headphones to not disrupt others - the primary motivation was always that randoms have no business knowing what I listen to.

              That’s weird. It’s definitely more important not to disturb people with what you’re listening to. It’s also much easier to keep the volume down with earphones than it is to keep smells confined, and much more disruptive - I never found it difficult to sleep or hold a conversation or concentrate because I could smell soy sauce.

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              Ever since weed was legalized in my area, downtown has been an array of weed smells on every other street. It’s quite upsetting. Idk how it’s even possible for it to linger in open air in a way that cigarettes don’t.

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                I don’t think it’s about lingering, I think there are just a lot more joints than cigarettes on fire at any given time.

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      The advice given isnt the issue. Its the attitude its all spoken in…

      Stuff like “Free (unlike your late fee that you keep racking up)” for example

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        It reads like an attempt at joviality that comes off as condescending. College students see this shit all the time.

        I’m an old fart. I know better than to try to be hip. I’m not, and never have been. I get along just fine.

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        I like the tone actually. Hate landlords and yeah it’s a bit nasty when you think of the social dynamics but honestly sometimes you just have to reach people, because the kinds of people who become an issue also don’t tend to read the dry legal document that is their rental agreement, I guarantee you.

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          Its not about it being not dry. Its moreso that its the exact type of tone that would make me want to do the exact opposite of whatever it says.

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            You’re not reading right. I said the legal document of a rental agreement is dry, and morons won’t read it, so they have to have something more shouty and threatening shoved in their face, simplified and made emotional, like how you’d speak to a misbehaving animal, simple words, emphasis on the tone.

            If you’d still want to do the opposite, you’re just antisocial and probably the reason this was put up.

            Having dealt with such antisocial behaviour before, it was a nightmare, I only wish it was legal to deliver such individuals to the hell in which I hope they burn for all eternity.

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      Huh? Why the fuck would I care whether my neighbor includes a cousin? If the cousin is paying to stay there then I can see some legal issues but why would this have anything to do with me?

      The rest I agree with. Don’t want people bothering me.

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    You say that, but…

    I just got an email from my building saying that someone has been smoking weed in the hallways and in apartments (with shared HVAC); it reeks. It’s a smoke-free lease.

    The first floor is a daycare center for kids with special needs.

    I guess some people really need to be told that these things are not okay.