• Virtvirt588@lemmy.world
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    Yet another attempt at a “lesser evil” just how bluesky appeared to exist. Its essentially the same thing but wrapped in a “European made” wrapper, even it’s policies are the same.

    Europe has the capacity to make good software yet garbage like W gets the spot light. Instead of glorifying the aspect that it is European made, consider the quality it provides.

    Mastodon is the perfect example here as it both satisfies quality standards and isn’t based in fascist america.

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    requiring user identification and photo verification

    And so they’ve failed before they’ve begun.

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      These are the same guys trying to institute chatcontrol and age verification to identify everyone to every account, to Tech, that would share it with them in government. Trying to surrender their citizens to tech and “AI,” they don’t think they will fail because they think they will be locking down society into a dystopian surveillance state where wrongthink will be crushed, enlightenment and age of reason be damned.

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          What is your point? They are trying to lock down the internet is mine. Id’ing everyone is part of that. Making this project part of that. Making it lose any appeal, a project that will fail because it’s backers hate freedom.

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      Yeah it’s a stupid title. Some people are trying to make the most of the moment and start their own social network.

      This makes it sound like this is an EU-mandated social network.

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    requiring user identification and photo verification to prevent bots

    Can’t wait until the next next big thing: “F”, for “Fuck you”.

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      I know that’s not going to be popular around here, but I am kind of curious what an “everyone is a confirmed user” social media site would actually look like, compared to the “whoever has the most bots gets shoved to the top of the rankings” cesspool we have now.

      Social media was a mistake. We should have stuck to small forums. Same with real life tbh. Shit, have I become an anarchist now?

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        Government will still have bots though, you will be at their mercy, and any disagreement they can retaliate in ways that aren’t apparent to you that you will never be able to prove. Hell they could even use secret social scores from their all encompassing surveillance they are trying to implement right now to decide what information your search pages are allowed to show you, to affect what prices you pay online, to decide if you get that job, that loan. If the police watch you, if they charge you, how hard the courts hit you.

        With peter thiels owned corporations making those social scores.

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        It would probably be the same content-wise. The bots are put there by people that wants to push an agenda. If we somehow reach a point where such a network with only live, confirmed humans exists, they’ll still push their points I guess. After all, we already see prominent account posting batshit crazy thing under their real name, so that would not change much.

        And, yeah. It’s not really being an anarchist to think smaller, closer spaces are a good idea. Worldwide, almost universal social connection all the time, even without the constant barrage of garbage, is bound to completely overload our brain. Focusing on smaller communities, hand in these for a limited/controlled duration, things that actual matters, sounds really nice. It’s more of a “technical minimalism”, if we keep things digital.

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    Europe is trying to lock down the internet, connect everything said, every page viewed, to every account and ip by id and likeness, into databanks and combine it and every other piece of information on you to run through half baked ai threat detection to create secret social scores.

    So you can yay getting rid of x, you are still surrendering to tech, to palantir type companies making those social scores. Hope you support Israel, aren’t an environmental protester for starters. Better correct your wrongthinks europe.

    But the kids, we have to institute mandatory colonoscopies to protect them, nevermind those kids will fall victim en masse to the surveillance state past despots couldn’t even dream of, run by the worst people.

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      they are also likely using palintir to achieve it too, i remember it being peddled to the eu for a few months already.

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        It is bigger than just him. Tech is behind it and their billionaires, thiel and his faction. Ashton kutcher, douchebag actor, leads this charity to protect kids by complete suveillance, in europe, they are bankrolled by tech. Someone linked an article a few months back from like balkan insights or something digging into chatcontrol backers, I cannot find it on my own because search engines no longer try to give what you ask.

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    Why recreate shit

    The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be

    but worse? Repost to !diwhy@lemmy.world?

    [X] is not a ‘public square’ – it now resembles a deepfake pornography website, and a one-way broadcast system for Musk himself

    And why are they trying to make the competition sound better?

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    Bluesky’s original “invite only but each person can invite” makes way more sense for bot management than “requiring photo identification” that can’t be verified and can be generated by ai.

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      Interestingly they’re basing it off the Bluesky atproto architecture. Seems like they’re keeping controlled sign-ups and setting the appview to only index (and only display) their own users.

      And if they don’t break protocol compatibility, others could have a “read-only view” of their network from servers / clients that federate (comparable to a lemmy server which would reject incoming messages but still let you browse)

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    It’s a start but They better cut off oracle and palantir too or this is just smoke and mirrors. Pro genocide pro mass surveillance pro mass incarceration Larry Ellison is behind the digital id that EU governments keep trying to shove down your throats.

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    The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be

    Kind of them to get that out of the way in the first sentence. No further reading required.