• WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org
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    Shhh, do you hear that? That’s the bullet headed to my neck.

    If America, and the taxes we pay for them to kill, kills innocent civilians, and most of us go along everyday not giving a fuck then why should we give a single fuck about this?

    Shit my paid taxes paid less for this than more monstrous murders. There’s less blood on my hands from this murder than the Israel Gaza war or any other war. Basically my tax payments have paid for more heartless shit than this. Yet that’s all cool and this is supposed to not be okay?

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    Yes, but also you reap what you sow. I am sure he knows in his heart he had to die to protect second amendment rights! /S

    Edit: Some gun deaths = 1,400 children and 45,000 adults.

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      Thing is most gun owners who hunt know. I saw a man shot at close range when I was in my early twenties. I wasn’t involved, just passenger in a car nearby when it happened. The next day there was nothing about it in the papers. Nothing at all. This guy gets shot and no one cared.

      I shot pigs for slaughter at close range right between the eyes when I was ten or eleven years old. All us kids took a turn and in some ways it was a good thing. Its good you know where meat comes from. Only a fool would think that shooting a person isn’t going to result in a large amount of blood. That shot was in a region of the body that has closely grouped large arteries and veins. No surprise there was so much blood. Anyone who is surprised should be thankful they have never seen something like that before.

      I saw that video of the man shooting himself in those faces of death videos back in the 90’s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer I felt bad about it because they said he was a good man. As for Kirk I feel very little. His words have made me care very little for him. Similar to how I felt when that healthcare guy got deleted.

      I realize I may be more desensitized to the things like this than most. At least I hope so.

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        I have never seen a person get shot in person (I’ve seen those videos too) but I have hunted pigs and kangaroos, bullet wounds really aren’t portrayed well in media.

        What’s funny to me is that American conservatives will argue that you can’t have guns in Australia. You can. We have guns and… no school shootings. No politicians being assassinated.

        Charlie Kirk spouted all kinds of bullshit about my country. I’m very happy he won’t be doing that anymore.

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        and in some ways it was a good thing.

        It is. It really should be a prerequisite for gun ownership: you have to kill something.

        That is a threshold I can’t personally cross, so I don’t think I should own a gun (and I dont).

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          Ehhhh, I wouldn’t be for making death a prerequisite. That’s just ending life for no good reason. Of course senseless death happens all the time, but normalizing and requiring it is a hell of a choice…

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            That’s the point. A gun’s purpose is to kill.

            And I was thinking of the victim being an animal that needs to be euthanized or something.

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              Eh… That’s still a bad idea, especially in a society like the US, where guns are very normalized not for killing in many places. Requiring death as an entry fee would just be normalizing their use for killing. It wouldn’t teach any sensible person something they don’t already know except now killing is expected and normalized for gun owners…

              Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about? Just like we should never require working at an abattoir in order to eat meat, we should never require killing to own a gun. It’ll only backfire and make society more accepting of something you don’t want.

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                Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about?

                Cynically, I think this has already happened. That horse has bolted.

                Which is your say, I do agree with your argument, I just think it’s already too late to argue it.

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                  Oh trust me, humans can get A LOT worse than now. If you think we’re desensitized to violence, just wait until the real civil war kicks off. The Republicans will make you pine for the days where school shootings were the most deplorable form of daily violence…

                  Just look at Israel, gleefully murdering children just trying to grab fucking food. You call yourself a cynic, but you’ve no idea the depths of depravity within humanity.

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      Not that I disagree per se, but this just sounds like the STD powerpoint from middle school health class: useless by itself.

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        No, but there was a shooting of 3 innocent students in Colorado today and now you know what happened to them. And the Uvalde students… Dozens of them…

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            You’re right, we already have a goal. There’s no way we can do 2 things at once or one after another… Just impossible. Thank you for your insight.

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            Meanwhile, your “working class” is armed to the teeth and fascism is still running amok.

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              The left is notoriously unarmed while the right is the reason our gun ownership is so high. At a time when the right threatens to take more and more away, this feels like a poor choice. Personally I agree with a very prominent leftist that the working class must be armed, and I feel that as those on the left we need to see the writing on the wall. The united states does not appear to be going a more peaceful direction, and if we want to keep having any rights for the workers at all we need to be ready to frustrate any attempt to disarm or otherwise neutralize us. In a world where the right does not threaten to take guns from trans folks or keep us from using our right to organize, we can talk about gun control again. Sadly we are sliding away from that so fast that I can’t imagine where we will be at the end of this presidency.

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                The left is notoriously unarmed

                Heh. The left talks about their guns less. They don’t have guns on their Christmas cards with their kids as part of their identity.

                But there are plenty of leftists with guns.

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        That’s pretty extreme. Also you can buy a taser without training in the US, so your point doesn’t even stand.

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    He literally got what he asked for. You would hope it might give some of the other hate peddlers pause…but I doubt it.

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    The saddest thing about it all. MAGA already blaming Dems. No one knows anything about the shooter or motive. But it’s the Dems fault

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    Translating this into MAGA-speak: “God called him home on the express… possibly Nitro. Who are we to question His plan?”

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    I was getting my haircut and FOX was on the TV when I found out he died from the shooting. Barbershop is Vietnamese owned and the barber was busy on his phone when I get there. I’ve been there many times without FOX on the TV and hope they just put a random news channel on.

    Fox was showing the reaction from various congress-critters and they got to AOC. AOC’s message was this another example of we we need some gun control in a much better way than I am relaying. When FOX went back to the host he immediately said she was wrong. HIPAA laws should be relaxed so problematic people could be found before they commit crimes.