• MehBlah@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Thing is most gun owners who hunt know. I saw a man shot at close range when I was in my early twenties. I wasn’t involved, just passenger in a car nearby when it happened. The next day there was nothing about it in the papers. Nothing at all. This guy gets shot and no one cared.

    I shot pigs for slaughter at close range right between the eyes when I was ten or eleven years old. All us kids took a turn and in some ways it was a good thing. Its good you know where meat comes from. Only a fool would think that shooting a person isn’t going to result in a large amount of blood. That shot was in a region of the body that has closely grouped large arteries and veins. No surprise there was so much blood. Anyone who is surprised should be thankful they have never seen something like that before.

    I saw that video of the man shooting himself in those faces of death videos back in the 90’s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer I felt bad about it because they said he was a good man. As for Kirk I feel very little. His words have made me care very little for him. Similar to how I felt when that healthcare guy got deleted.

    I realize I may be more desensitized to the things like this than most. At least I hope so.

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      I have never seen a person get shot in person (I’ve seen those videos too) but I have hunted pigs and kangaroos, bullet wounds really aren’t portrayed well in media.

      What’s funny to me is that American conservatives will argue that you can’t have guns in Australia. You can. We have guns and… no school shootings. No politicians being assassinated.

      Charlie Kirk spouted all kinds of bullshit about my country. I’m very happy he won’t be doing that anymore.

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      4 days ago

      and in some ways it was a good thing.

      It is. It really should be a prerequisite for gun ownership: you have to kill something.

      That is a threshold I can’t personally cross, so I don’t think I should own a gun (and I dont).

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        Ehhhh, I wouldn’t be for making death a prerequisite. That’s just ending life for no good reason. Of course senseless death happens all the time, but normalizing and requiring it is a hell of a choice…

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          That’s the point. A gun’s purpose is to kill.

          And I was thinking of the victim being an animal that needs to be euthanized or something.

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            Eh… That’s still a bad idea, especially in a society like the US, where guns are very normalized not for killing in many places. Requiring death as an entry fee would just be normalizing their use for killing. It wouldn’t teach any sensible person something they don’t already know except now killing is expected and normalized for gun owners…

            Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about? Just like we should never require working at an abattoir in order to eat meat, we should never require killing to own a gun. It’ll only backfire and make society more accepting of something you don’t want.

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              Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about?

              Cynically, I think this has already happened. That horse has bolted.

              Which is your say, I do agree with your argument, I just think it’s already too late to argue it.

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                Oh trust me, humans can get A LOT worse than now. If you think we’re desensitized to violence, just wait until the real civil war kicks off. The Republicans will make you pine for the days where school shootings were the most deplorable form of daily violence…

                Just look at Israel, gleefully murdering children just trying to grab fucking food. You call yourself a cynic, but you’ve no idea the depths of depravity within humanity.