• JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    22 hours ago

    I’ve seen what feels like a hundred posts complaining about people saying we need to support Gavin Newsome no matter what but I have yet to see someone saying we need to support Gavin Newsome no matter what.

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      14 hours ago

      I don’t see it much on here, but they’re everywhere on Bluesky. You can search Newsom’s name and the first result will probably be someone talking shit about him with tons of comments and quote posts telling them they’re just trying to get Trump to win a third term.

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          57 minutes ago

          For an eventual presidential run. This is what the DNC does. Spend three years finding the worse technically electable person they can, then pressure the left into voting for them because otherwise the republicans will destroy everything.

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        22 hours ago

        As have I, and they are sanctimonous, condescending, and tiresome in the extreme.

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      21 hours ago

      I personally had many people pile on me when I criticized him during the peak of his meming on Trump. But it does feel like the tide has turned against him a bit now.

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        21 hours ago

        They love the pointless, performative shit.

        Look at what Newsom is actually doing: presiding over a state where, for the vast majority of his constituents, it’s becoming unaffordable to live in while at the same time he is actively criminalizing homelessness.

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              All the more reason to pass STAR or Ranked Robin voting, improved versions of RCV, once he’s out of the governor’s office.

              Newsom specifically would never would have won reelection for the governor’s race under ranked choice voting.

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      21 hours ago

      Yeah, those posts were in response to people being completely shitty about it.

      Do you need me to link to some previous discussions where there are accusations of someone being an accelerationist who prefers Trump because they criticized Newsom? Because that was just yesterday. That’s not even touching the people who flat out say ‘I am absolutely willing to sacrifice trans rights because everyone else is more important’.

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        51 minutes ago

        Don’t trans people already have the same rights as other people? The things happening to them are prejudice.

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          34 minutes ago

          No.

          It is illegal for trans people to use the bathroom corresponding with their gender in 13 states. (Drop down menu to change maps)

          It’s illegal to update your gender markers on ID in 3 states.

          Over half of states prevent trans youth from even playing in school sports.

          In 10 states it’s not considered a hate crime to attack a trans person for being trans.

          Conversion “therapy,” proven to be psychologically damaging, is legal in almost half of states, including against youth who can’t say no to it.

          It’s legal to discriminate against trans people in housing in almost half of states.

          18 states allow employers to fire someone for being transgender.

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        13 hours ago

        The funny thing about trans people is that they also care about having an administration full of insane clowns enabling climate catastrophe, the next pandemic, and the Gaza genocide.

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          13 hours ago

          You would think this incredibly basic understanding of the political leanings of the average trans person would get us a little solidarity from Democratic leadership, but we can all go fuck ourselves the second a blue dog dem starts crying about being scared of pronouns apparently.

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      16 hours ago

      Exactly. I support Newsom because he fights and would even support even Republicans. We need everyone.

      Most Democrats don’t do anything beyond nice speeches and many don’t even bother with that.

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      15 hours ago

      This is the time for someone else to step up and be noticed by the crowd.

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      22 hours ago

      Feels kind of manufactured, honestly. I’m also trying to find evidence that he’s a transphobic piece of shit, but it seems like he’s pretty good on trans rights.

      I think this post is that “sowing division” thing we’ve heard so much about.

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        He went on Joe Rogan’s Charlie Kirk’s show and said he doesn’t think trans women should be in sports. Solidarity only goes one way for him.

        Edit: the deleted comment under this by Madzielle is the work of a coward. Post for real and stand by your (shitty) opinion. Don’t delete it immediately just so it hits my inbox and you suffer no community consequences from it.

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          13 hours ago

          Apparently the climate, the constitution, and every child in Gaza need to die on the hill of trans people in sports.

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            Wouldn’t want to miss an opportunity to fuck over women. And they call themselves progressives. I guess overturning Roe v Wade is “progress” to them

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            Which of your rights have you given up for any of those?

            How the fuck is keeping trans people out of sports going to fix any of that? Do you think 4 years after 2028 MAGA and climate change will be gone? Will it bring back any dead kids? After we’ve accepted that trans people can’t be allowed in sports, what rights will we have to sacrifice in the next election? And the next? When is the point where you decide that actually there’s a line Democratic candidates can’t cross when it comes to trans rights, even in a primary?

            Because it feels a whole lot like there is no bridge too far and people are real fuckin mad about trans people pointing that out.

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          21 hours ago

          He basically capitulated to the claims that “Democrats supporting trans rights have caused them to lose support”.

          That’s not even me excusing him. It’s pointing out that he’s spineless and caves under pressure, which might be even more important than whether he supports trans rights.

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          21 hours ago

          Rogan would be one thing since he’s a bit independently minded it was even worse it was Charlie Kirk. No reason to give him that audience.