why do i need to update the app so i can see changes. Whats the point of a change log then? I have auto updates off cause it a hassle to revert back to an earlier version if I dont like the changes. I know for a fact the ig update is for their new stupid map feature and AI shit. I will not update unless it stops working completely. Is it so hard to say what specific bug was fixed and what exactly do you mean by performance. why cant it be detailed like this

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    I can understand a banking app such as Chime* wanting to obfuscate whatever bugs or potential exploits they’ve come across and patched - to prevent users on older versions from being targeted; but the rest of those examples are utterly bullshit.

    I put forward Duolingo as another egregious example of this bullshit:

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    “We’re updating the segmentation logic of our A/B test infrastructure to downgrade its respect for the CloudFlare score when deciding whether or not to mark a session as coming from a bot. This was skewing the data on several of our start screen UI experiments, particularly within APAC data.”

    Sometimes, you really don’t want to hear it ;D

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        Maybe this didn’t come across from my example but my point was that a lot of changes are internal, highly technical, housekeeping, etc and unintelligible without proprietary knowledge of the entire codebase and a full code diff. It’s not going to be the benefit you think it is, and it is not reasonable to expect a full diff with every release - unless you want to go use open source software for everything.

        If you want to add your desire to the list of pie-in-the-sky things that would be ideal to have in life, fine, but it’s not practical or useful in reality. Even the publishers who appear to be doing what you want are not telling you everything. There is always an undercurrent of technical housekeeping. And sometimes that’s ALL there is.

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    Ahow many updates receives an app, is now considered a “good” metric somehow now. So now if dependabot pushes a PR, it’s a new release on the app stores (of course without testing)

    The algorithms on the app stores now consider the app “active” and push the app “up” in ranking

    There was a certain billionaire bragging about his app getting 3 vibe-coded updates a day while the competition “only” got 3 a week

    So, they can’t write a real change log. What can they write? “Dependabot updated leftpad from 1.1.3.2 to 1.1.3.3” “untested: updated Gradle from 8.14.2 to 8.14.3” “200mb update to change a comma in the Hungarian translation”

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    For apps with generic update messages that also have source control and changelogs available: check to see how often the updates are just a manifest version bump and nothing more. Way greater than zero.

    Most version revs for apps are just to reset review count and bury negative reviews with “review of an older version”.

    It’s all gamification of walled gardens. Walled gardens that need to die.

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      Is that an iOS thing? On Android versions don’t reset reviews, and there is no “review of older version” message.

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      … which is also almost verbatim what it says at the bottom of the “good” example…

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        … in a addition to a link where they explain their “improvements and bug fixes” in greater detail without character limits. So yes it is a “good” example.

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    Change logs are kinda hard to do in a CI/CD environment because of the way that development style works.

    It’s actually pretty challenging in general. Not sure you’ve ever built a change log before but it’s a pretty interesting exercise thats easier said then done. Even open source logs just copy paste the commit log which can be not all that helpful.

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      Isn’t this just what AI is the greatest tool of all time for? At least, so I’m told by the AIvangelists.

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        I’d argue that if the app is not monetized, you deserve whatever the dev feels like giving you, for free.

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        People can also just not install those things. No one is forcing it.

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      She needs to be defrosted from her summer stasis in time to sing about Christmas.

      Though in all seriousness, it’s sad to think that enough people saw that AI slop of an update summary and thought, “Yep, that sounds better than anything I could’ve come up with. Let’s run with it.”

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        That was the most upsetting of all of the examples. How condescending (GoOgLe iT). What an ass.

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        I find it deeply offensive that an app could suggest I may not know the word “cornucopia.” I wouldn’t give a shit if it was the only app I could use to pay my bills; if it at any point suggested that I didn’t know a word as common as “cornucopia,” I would delete it immediately, leave a 0 star review, and post the offense to a community like this.

        And just to be clear, the bar for how uncommon a word would have to be in order for it not be offensive is way higher than cornu-fucking-copia.

        “Terpsichorean.” That’s a word I wouldn’t be offended if they thought I didn’t know it. Or maybe “legerdemain.” I know both of those words, but I wouldn’t be offended.

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          Hmm, those are cool

          Terpsichorean - “pertaining to dance” Legerdemain - “someone who is particularly skilled with one’s hands in the use of conjuring tricks”

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    That’s been a joke in the Playstation community for years now:

    “Stability Improvements.”

    Well, shit, we must have the most stable system in the universe at this point…

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    I would rather no change log than the LLM generated fall thing… that was a waste of time to read.

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    Youtube also does this. Basically it says “To see list of changes, look in the app guide” or something like that; no morons, I want to know what you changed BEFORE updating.