• Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    “A multi ethnic America is dirty!” he said about a country that exists from the colonisation and immigration of a hundred different ethnicities.

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      Maybe he thinks that the whites in America should go back to England???!

      Because the one true original ethnicity in America are Native-Indians and everybody else who came afterwards, including his own ancestors, were the ones making it multi-ethnic.

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        Pretty sure there were also Germans, and Poles, and French, and Swedish, and Dutch, and Spanish, and Portuguese, and Italians, and quite a lot of Irish and one particular point in history.

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          Oh, yeah, the “Go back home to England” is just a saying rather than representative of historical reality.

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        The remaining tribes would then proceed to kill each other (as they did before the English ever arrived).

        The tribes were not one ethnicity, either.

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    the german far right leader (female) is married to an indian sri lankan woman and when asked about how that relates to her plans of deporting brown people she said her wife ‘does not count because she was adopted by a white family in switzerland’

    i mean, they also run a populist platform aimed at poor people with a libertarian program to wipe out social assistance though, so why am i even suprised by the hypocrisy?

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        fair enough, corrected!

        also, who is openly pride, alice or her wife? apparently they also have some kids and are in a civil partnership, but she does oppose same sex marriage (because ‘tradition’ of course?). i always have that mental gymnastics meme in my head when i read about her or hear her speak… x)

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    I mean, I get it.

    It’s why you don’t buy a white couch. It shows all the stains. You want a darker colored couch to hide dirt, orange juice spills, that kind of thing.

    Only rich people have money for a white couch. Because if you spill some wine on it, and the stain won’t come out, they can afford to replace it, no questions asked.

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      I guess it depends on the stain. Maybe there’s good reason Vance needs a white couch

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        He may be rich enough.

        He seems like the kind of guy who has a couple couches though.

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    Sociopaths only ever care about themselves and for them everybody else - even their children - are only worth as much as the utility they have for the sociopath.

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    Conservatives are EXTREMELY good at indoctrination. The kids will unfortunatley probably never question their racist father’s racist remarks.

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      It’s not really that so much as Indians of high caste (which his wife is) basically consider themselves ‘white’. So as far as they’re concerned he’s talking about other people, not them.

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        Casteism and racism are functionally equivalent. Both are based on how / where you’re born rather than who you are.

        For centuries, people of European descent saw themselves as the global upper caste because of their skin tone and heritage.

        It’s taken time to undo that regressive thinking, and even though there are some white people who continue to think themselves superior today, most are not racist.

        Similarly there are people of Indian upper caste heritage that do not support caste discrimination / supremacy.

        I can’t speak for Usha Vance herself but her mom, in her capacity as provost of the University of California San Diego’s Sixth College, created a pilot course on race, ethnicity and gender in biology and medicine, served on the university’s biological sciences diversity committee, and wrote proudly of her school’s commitment to diversity.

        I strongly doubt that she sees herself as “white”. She also does not strike me as a woman that would raise a family with racist or casteist values. Where Usha went wrong is anyone’s guess (probably at some point in her education in the US / meeting Vance) but her heritage likely has little to do with it if her mom was championing these values openly.

        Both casteism and racism must be abolished.

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      Between home schooling and only hanging out with other church folk it’s evil and apparently not really effective if it can be all undone with a year of university.

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      just look trumps children, ERIC or JR wanted to be independent(join the services) in thier youths, but trump threatened them he will cut them out of his WEALTH they do not behave. his daughters, DIL are all on board with trump.

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    Thomas Jefferson sold his kids to slavery and we still put him on our currency. vance is the fucking same kind of scum.

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        i can’t imagine any point in history where it would be acceptable to sell your own children into slavery. i think even in ancient greece, you wouldn’t sell your own child as a slave.

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          People did this all of the time, not sure about the Greeks specifically (but I would assume they did also).

          If you were dead broke, you married off one of your kids… if you couldn’t do that, you sold them.

          People still do this TODAY.

          Imagine if you couldn’t feed your own children. Wouldn’t selling them be preferable to watching them waste away until their inevitable demise?

          (not that Jefferson did it because he was starving, he just needed some walkin’ around money)

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          The Bible specifically addresses it. Male Hebrew slaves were to be released after a period of time, daughters sold were slaves for life.

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        … Okay and? They both fucking suckcas people. Or are you trying to say Jefferson was a product of his time?

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    Diaspora Indians are, somehow, white Europeans. Also, some confused Latinos. They’ll learn eventually that Western imperialism cannot be separated from white supremacy, requiring the dehumanisation of others as a foundation, and they’ll be a main target sooner or later before white infighting takes place (“are Italians even white???”/“fucking Krauts!”).

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      Diaspora Indians already know this. There’s a ton of racism directed at Indians today, it’s not for off from the post 9/11 period, but arguably less physically violent. There is no brown person in America that thinks themselves white and, even if they did, American society has a way of constantly reminding them that they are not.

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        There is no brown person in America that thinks themselves white

        My two cousins are half-Thai but thanks to the genetic dice they both look vaguely central american. They got abused quite a bit growing up both for being asian and for being “mexican”. This taught them empathy for others who … lol just kidding. They’re both trump-loving white supremacists who rant against immigrants despite their own mother being an immigrant from Thailand.

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          Well, it sounds like they’re half white and are white passing as a result which isn’t the experience of most brown people in the US.

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            I’m half brown. I’ve been called n-bomb, dirty Jew, and various weird middle eastern slurs.

            I’m none of those–it doesn’t matter though. If you’re tinted, you’re not white.

            One drop rule still in play.

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        It took me a moment to realise you made a typo and meant to write “far off”. Mistyping o instead of a makes me think you might be a fellow Dvorak user, but I’m prepared to be disappointed.

  • Vance is one of those freaky shapeshifters whose positions and principles contort anew as necessary to stay adjacent to power.

    His kids are likely not just traumatized by him but terrified of the kind of monster he is.

    They hate and fear him already.

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      hes only a puppet of thiel, hes pulling the strings. once thiel is out of the picture some how, vance is but an empty shell.

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    First daddy came for…

    (Yes couch, I know, valid, but chill out - this is a Holocaust reference. Let it be…)