the naive belief that we have simply yet to find the perfect argument that, when shown to the frothing genocidal fascists, will somehow magically turn them 180 degrees and renounce american fascism.
This is also why the left infights so much, they are so desperate to have intellectual fights and showcase their logic and reason in a way that matters that all you can really do with that is just pick at other leftist’s takes and beliefs.
We probably could have made a lot better progress in effecting change in our country if we all digested the reality a lot sooner that we are NOT arguing our way to a better outcome, that all we could really hope to do is change narratives and change the way the right feels about topics.
Yeah. The right isn’t arguing anymore either and I think it’s why the liberals are so quick to punch left. Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson falloff being the most obvious examples. They don’t care anymore and the liberals are trying to find someone to “debate”. The right has largely “won”. The “marketplace of ideas” does not result in the most just and good ideas winning. They are having a hard time handling this.
So they’re lost. They don’t know what to do but discuss ideas and think that that is the only thing that leads to change.
It’s a perfect example of why you need to understand dialectical materialism. If all you have is ideas you’ll be holding onto those ideas and “winning” your way all the way to the gas chambers. But they continue to criticize any material effort to resist fascist that threatens the existing systems they think will somehow shift back. They will not shift back again. “The marketplace of ideas” is dead and it was never a means of progress in the first place.
This is also why the left infights so much, they are so desperate to have intellectual fights and showcase their logic and reason in a way that matters that all you can really do with that is just pick at other leftist’s takes and beliefs.
We probably could have made a lot better progress in effecting change in our country if we all digested the reality a lot sooner that we are NOT arguing our way to a better outcome, that all we could really hope to do is change narratives and change the way the right feels about topics.
Yeah. The right isn’t arguing anymore either and I think it’s why the liberals are so quick to punch left. Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson falloff being the most obvious examples. They don’t care anymore and the liberals are trying to find someone to “debate”. The right has largely “won”. The “marketplace of ideas” does not result in the most just and good ideas winning. They are having a hard time handling this.
So they’re lost. They don’t know what to do but discuss ideas and think that that is the only thing that leads to change.
It’s a perfect example of why you need to understand dialectical materialism. If all you have is ideas you’ll be holding onto those ideas and “winning” your way all the way to the gas chambers. But they continue to criticize any material effort to resist fascist that threatens the existing systems they think will somehow shift back. They will not shift back again. “The marketplace of ideas” is dead and it was never a means of progress in the first place.