Still investigating cause of death, but it appears to be some sort of puncture wound in the neck region

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    Tinfoil hat time: Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery, which has a very high mortality rating. This wasn’t a lucky shot, this was well aimed. If you look at the tape, it doesn’t look like someone in the crowd had a gun, no one in the crowd was reacting before the shot occurred, and no one saw a gun pulled. In the crowd full of people, how to you avoid everyone else and make a kill shot like that? I legit believe this was a shot taken from far away and the person that took the shot had the ability to make a sniper shot like that, (some form of police/military training.) Then, before he’s been officially pronounced dead, Trump posts “The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!” Trump wrote on his social media platform. If he hadn’t officially been declared dead, why was Trump saying that Charlie Kirk was dead before it was official. Next Trump is blaming the left with no proof. I’m calling it, Trump had Kirk assassinated as a false flag operation, and this will be trump’s reischtag fire. Buckle up. Edit: NYT is saying the shot came from a roof via a high power bolt action rifle, because the gun was found in the woods near the campus. Authorities also claim to have video footage of the suspect going to the roof of a campus building.

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      The shooting spot was about 250 yards away. That’s WWII sniping range, but not particularly far for modern precision rifles. According to Ryan Cleckner (US Army Ranger sniper), precision marksman training in the Army makes you use iron sights out to 600 yards. A good setup these days can hit a dinner plate (read: a human head) at 1000 yards, and that’s not even pushing it.

      They didn’t have to hit him the neck. They just needed to hit the general head area. They got lucky hitting the artery dead on, but any head hit has a very high probability of death.

      There are millions of bench rest shooters with a bolt action rifle who could make that shot.

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          That is the nice thing about the American Way. Just call up the neighboring states’ militias and ask who didn’t show up for drills and if any weapons are missing.

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        If you have a regular 30.06 bullet with a rifle sighted in at 200 yards, it will hit around 5" lower than you aim at 250 yards depending on the gun and conditions.

        If you have it sighted in at 300 yards and aim for center mass (heart) the bullet will hit around 5" above where they are aiming.

        In both conditions the bullet hits the neck area.

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          Also, I don’t know if people train for downward sloped shots. He may have over/under corrected.

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            Not usually in my experience. Almost all target shooting is on relatively flat ranges. Especially not for ranges that short.

            For those that don’t know, when firing down the slope the effect of gravity decreases the bullets velocity loss. So the bullet transverses the distance in less time and drops less over a given distance.

            When firing up a slope the bullet loses velocity due to gravity. So it drops more due to the extra time it takes for the bullet to transverse the distance.

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      There is video of a person dressed in black skedaddling back over the rooftop, clearly the shooter. No sane shooter is aiming for the neck, hell no. Pretty sure it was a chest shot that tumbled around his ribcage and exited his neck. Weird shit happens when a teeny projectile hits meat and bone at 3,400FPS.

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      false flag operation

      Claims like this give both too much credit for action and too little to strategy.

      • there’s no reason to believe this specific action was a false flag operation when in the current environment it’s simple to believe a radicalized individual
      • isn’t that one of the benefits of the continuous hatred, outrage, divisiveness, chaos? There’s always going to be stuff like this happening, so you always have an event to capitalize on without the risk of doing it yourself
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        I dunno, this happening right around the same time the Senate voted YET AGAIN against the release of the Epstein files may be a thing

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          ???

          “America was about to come together against its true enemy?”

          Every single person reading this is going to think the " true" enemy is something/someone else.

          We have not been this divided as a country since we went to war with ourselves.

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            Which is the one group both groups politicians shill for.

            Which group currently blackmails both sides of the aisle.

            Which group funds politicians on both sides of the aisle to keep American taxpayers sending billion of dollars a year despite their current genocide and souring tensions with the world.

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      Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery,

      There are two carotid arteries. Based on the footage, it looks to me like only his left carotid artery got hit. It would make sense because bullets make a way bigger hole when exiting than they do when entering.
      I don’t think anyone, no matter how skilled they are, would be aiming to do that. It’s way more likely to be a failed headshot or shot to the torso.

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      You don’t think that maybe trump just doesn’t wait for a news article to be posted? Maybe he got a call and since he’s incessantly posting tweets he did it before an editor could approve the news article change? There’s a lot more simple explanations.

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        Yes, this is also highly likely, which is why I started my post with “tin foil hat time.” Even if that’s the case, even if the govt had 0 involvement in his death, I still think this incident will be used as a means for trump to further solidify power.

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    Honestly, it would be some pretty funny shit if he got hit by a random bullet someone shot into the air from like a mile or so.

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    Of course he was targeted. The man dedicated his entire career to spreading misinformation and hatred. He reaped what he sowed.

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    Do you mean to say it wasn’t a random bullet?

    I never would have reached that conclusion on my own, thank you FBI, you are truly the world’s greatest detectives. Thinking outside the box!

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    So, my aunt was there and said she was in charge of securing the trees. Said the trees in front of the student union only took 3 hours to secure.

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        but the nearby woods have been secured, authorities said.

        It’s a joke about securing (the trees in) the woods.

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      Usually. Sometimes not. Like those people somewhere in the middle east, celebrating a wedding, shooting their AK47s in the air, and the groom getting killed that way…

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    Uh, duh?

    Cripes the FBI has fallen so far since Trump has taken office again. I guess they really did lose a lot of their best and brightest due to having a unqualified moron in charge.

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        Well to be fair; this was a deepstate deepfake false flag with a crowd full of crisis actors. Kirk actually got cosmetic surgery to have a normal size face and is living out his live on some island with a sweet pension.

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    Gosh you mean someone executed a perfectly aimed shot into his carotid and picked him off like a clay pigeon in a shooting gallery, escaped a security patrolled event without being identified, and you think that might not be just some rando? Wow FBI that’s some stellar detective work!