• Avicenna@programming.dev
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    lol lets fuck all other computational sciences so that people can generate cats drinking whiskey in robes de chambre.

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    zswap and zram becoming highly critical software again trying to shove your fat 16Gb allocated application into 8Gb of RAM with room to spare:

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    8 GIGABYTES!!? How am I supposed to load a mouse driver in THAT!?

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    All web browsers are nearly unusable with 4gb of RAM lately. Even with desktop Linux I usually have nearly my full 8gb used. With 8gb AND Windows it’s only a matter of time before these computers become unusable…

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    8 GB of RAM would be enough if every fucking application didn’t use Electron.

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      Or web applications, Firefox/Chrome uses like 32 GB RAM and constantly crashes my computer because of it

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      thank you. came here to say this.

      or, well, it also doesn’t play well with ARM, i.e. on macbooks the ram isn’t the bottle neck, its the CPU struggling with electron despite objectively being faster than x86 equivalents.

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    I speak on behalf of all IT Support personnel everywhere when I say “fuck you”

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    Waaaayyy back in the day Dell had a real bad habit of limiting their low and midrange laptops to pitiful amounts of memory to stratify their product line even though the chipset might support more.

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    Large computing will exist solely in the cloud where you will pay a subscription for it. Can’t have these grubbing consumers buy anything we elites don’t get a monthly cut of.

    I wish this was sarcasm.

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      I am honestly not sure if that’s a bad thing aside from the capitalism of it all. Almost all tasks normal people do could be done with a 10 year old computer running Linux.

      I will find it hilarious if this RAM pricing issue causes people to move to Linux rather than have slow ass Windows 11.

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    Shit, looks like the crazy stock bubble is starting to dwarf and eat into the consumer market instead of just bursting…

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    better start removing AI from Windows then… holy fucj my 16gb is barely holding up with windows11 that in forced to use on my work PC. slow as BALLS, it’s just raping the entire system performance constantly

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      I wonder what’s going to happen to the electron frontends if machines are bottlenecked by ram so bad. Wasn’t facebook just planning to switch whatsapp’s frontend to webview as well? And win11’s desktop is electron too. Everyone was acting like ram is unlimited.

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        Don’t worry, you’ll just need to subscribe to My Windows Copilot Cloud+ to get access to a virtual PC with plenty of RAM from anywhere! It’ll be powerful enough you’ll barely notice us logging all your actions and blocking anything we don’t like.

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      I have win11 on a work surface laptop pro with 16gb and I’m consistently at 15+GB used. This is corporate bloat. How do I know? I have a personal surface pro 6 with win11 and 16gb and it runs like a breeze.

      Corporate bloat is such bullshit.

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        If there’s anything corporate IT is good at it’s bullshit and security theater. Can they stop corporate espionage? Of course not. Can they make it really annoying for employees to access data they need for their job: ✅. But at least they’re “compliant” with some rules that aren’t even particularly well-documented.

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          Security is all theatre. When NIST says make secure passwords and never change them but your fortune 500 infosec policy tells you to rotate your password every 30 days?

          LOL

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              Yes. Pwd change should only be on evidence of compromise assuming you have made a secure password.

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            And those companies’ policies cascade out because of the incestuous nature of company boards. Some dumbass who is C__ at one company and member of the board at another says you gotta do the same to be compliant and since it’s all theater they comply rather than push back. Corporations are dumb.

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      Company computers often come with pre-installed spyware which is notoriously RAM hungry. My company laptop immediately after boot uses nearly a full 16gb before you open any programs. Luckily our IT department realizes this and only allows us to purchase machines with 32GB and up. They’re probably not happy with the current prices, but being a F500 company they can afford it…

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      …do we really need to use the word “raping” to talk about PC performance or can we agree that there are a hundred other words that fit better in that spot?

      EDIT: Wooo free downvotes. Y’all are a bunch of snowflakes. I tried to make a point on behalf of others, since there are people who have traumatic lived experience with the concept of “rape” and would probably prefer not to be reminded of it. Nobody serious about computing is going to go out and say “this process is raping the performance” because it’s just not a good idea. I bet you (if in tech field) wouldn’t say it in front of your boss. But sure, call me sensitive and pull out a semantic argument.

      I can smell you through your screen. Go take a shower and try being human.

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        sometimes facing fears is a better way to overcome problems. hiding or making everyone avoid things that bother you or were a traumatic experience doesn’t help anyone.

        I used this word because it’s definition applys to the scenario. It’s the act of pilaging and plundering of my system resources by microsoft and other monitoring tools with no recourse but to abandon them. rape is a perfectly fine word to use. if it was strictly limited to sexual acts, I wouldn’t have used it.

        edit: I use this word at work too and have no issues with it both verbally and written. moreso verbally because people can’t apply multi definitions of words and always assume 1 main definition

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        you’re limiting your interpretation of rape to a single definition. there are multiple, and this certainly fits as one

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        I know it’s hard, but you’ll get through this. One day at a time, step by step, things will get easier. Some days it might not feel like you’re making any progress; Some days you’ll feel like you’re moving backwards. But time heals all wounds. You’ve got this, eventually you won’t even remember their comment existed. Stay. Strong. Keep fighting.

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          Hah. I never even said the comment hurt me.

          I’m just speaking on behalf of those who have been hurt. If you can’t recognize why someone might do that, you’re either a rape apologist or you’re an incel troll. Probably both.

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      For the price of 32GB, if you’re lucky. Hopefully it’s 8gb in a single stick so upgrading is cheaper, even if that means single channel ram speeds out of the box