It is so immemsely stupid that this is an effective strategy for both making non Trumpers giggle, and also just troll the fuck out of …seemingly non sentient Trump supporters…
But then again, mockery has always been at least fairly effective against fascists, at least as a form.of rhetoric… hopefully this can at least buoy some morale to be able to translate into meaningful action.
The average, adult American reads at a 5th to 6th grade level.
~15% of adult Americans are functionally illiterate, ie, read at a 1st to 2nd grade level or worse.
This is why the Republican long game has been to destroy public educations: morons are easier to trick.
Also, Twtitter was a mistake, way before Elon bought it.
Ah, yes, lets reduce politcal discourse to the character limit of only slogans, and then later be surprised that everyone only reacts to clever short snippets that necessarily disinclude complexity and context.
Twitter largely blew up as a social platform for two reasons:
Celebrities joined, back when that was still a term that meant something, before everyone became a micro-celebrity / influencer via later short form video platforms…
And also prominent, mostly Democrat politicians joined, and used it for political messaging.
So, this is to a large part the Dems fault as well, they spearheaded the idea of realtime political messaging in tiny idiot snippets.
Ugh, when twitter took over political discourse back when it had the most restrictive character limit was when things really went to shit and tanked what little patience people had for politics.
How effective that was at just controlling narrative with ease at appealing to populism is why Musk went after it in the first place. It is so much easier to maintain a fallacious argument (which is what right-wing logic is founded on to play on people’s innate biases) when your opponent is limited in how they are able to word their counter arguments, where they can focus on the vagaries to accuse it of inconsistency, or take the time to post a long chain that most people won’t bother following while the main discussion is replying to the original fallacy, steering the conversation while you struggle to keep up.
And it’s only gotten worse with how all mainstream social media is evolving under capitalism. Which is the worst part. Dems saw how effective it was too but the mechanisms of capitalism allowed Musk to wrest control of the platform and disenfranchise political opponents and silence experts under the guise of the “free market” and “free speech”.
It is literally a reformation of the very medium of political discourse, and … as we should but apparently do not know… to a great extent, the medium is the message.
Its analagous to NewSpeak.
Its not the vocabulary that has been top down rewritten… but, the maximum length of a sentence, a thought.
Now its all so much worse with tiktok and insta… thats why some of us are here on lemmy, where it is at least possible to have a long form discussion.
I love the purpose that he’s serving right now, but when the 2028 presidential primaries roll around I hope he gets completely creamed and then goes away forever.
What’s the purpose? Like, in a positive sense. I just see this as more liberal distraction from actual material change. Making people feel like there is a means of resistance within the current system that has become overcome by fascist.
It gives people the false sense of “something being done”. When it gives us no more progress than a new episode of South Park.
The purpose is humiliation. That’s it, really. Fascists NEED you to respect them. If not their governing, then you must respect their power and violence and stay in line. If you do not respect them, and laugh at them. They crumble.
Bats and guns help with the crumbling. But laughing is great too.
Seems like he’s the only governor that read the part about defeating fascists through humiliation. I am not a big fan of his previous policies, but he is the only person that’s even slightly left of center presenting any fortitude right now.
Newsome is firmly on the right, he doesn’t touch center. Bernie and AOC are centrists. The only person even remotely on the left that has a national presence is Zohran.
It is by no means a new sentence, it’s a much more PC version of a line from Ambrose Bierce’s “The Devil’s Dictionary” - specifically his satirical definition of African.
I don’t like him, but this is funny.
It is so immemsely stupid that this is an effective strategy for both making non Trumpers giggle, and also just troll the fuck out of …seemingly non sentient Trump supporters…
But then again, mockery has always been at least fairly effective against fascists, at least as a form.of rhetoric… hopefully this can at least buoy some morale to be able to translate into meaningful action.
I just find it incredibly depressing that this shit is what gets people interested in politics. It’s no wonder our country is circling the drain.
The average, adult American reads at a 5th to 6th grade level.
~15% of adult Americans are functionally illiterate, ie, read at a 1st to 2nd grade level or worse.
This is why the Republican long game has been to destroy public educations: morons are easier to trick.
Also, Twtitter was a mistake, way before Elon bought it.
Ah, yes, lets reduce politcal discourse to the character limit of only slogans, and then later be surprised that everyone only reacts to clever short snippets that necessarily disinclude complexity and context.
Twitter largely blew up as a social platform for two reasons:
Celebrities joined, back when that was still a term that meant something, before everyone became a micro-celebrity / influencer via later short form video platforms…
And also prominent, mostly Democrat politicians joined, and used it for political messaging.
So, this is to a large part the Dems fault as well, they spearheaded the idea of realtime political messaging in tiny idiot snippets.
Ugh, when twitter took over political discourse back when it had the most restrictive character limit was when things really went to shit and tanked what little patience people had for politics.
How effective that was at just controlling narrative with ease at appealing to populism is why Musk went after it in the first place. It is so much easier to maintain a fallacious argument (which is what right-wing logic is founded on to play on people’s innate biases) when your opponent is limited in how they are able to word their counter arguments, where they can focus on the vagaries to accuse it of inconsistency, or take the time to post a long chain that most people won’t bother following while the main discussion is replying to the original fallacy, steering the conversation while you struggle to keep up.
And it’s only gotten worse with how all mainstream social media is evolving under capitalism. Which is the worst part. Dems saw how effective it was too but the mechanisms of capitalism allowed Musk to wrest control of the platform and disenfranchise political opponents and silence experts under the guise of the “free market” and “free speech”.
Yep.
It is literally a reformation of the very medium of political discourse, and … as we should but apparently do not know… to a great extent, the medium is the message.
Its analagous to NewSpeak.
Its not the vocabulary that has been top down rewritten… but, the maximum length of a sentence, a thought.
Now its all so much worse with tiktok and insta… thats why some of us are here on lemmy, where it is at least possible to have a long form discussion.
I love the purpose that he’s serving right now, but when the 2028 presidential primaries roll around I hope he gets completely creamed and then goes away forever.
I agree. I also hope there’s someone to actually root for.
People are saying that he is doing it to run in 2028, he is actually dating we might not have a free and fair election in 28:
https://youtube.com/shorts/cZpka6EX1l8
The impression I get from listening to him talk is that he is preparing to be president before 2028, just of a new nation.
Like you said he doesn’t seem to think there will be an election ( I agree) so he is positioning himself to take California and some others and go.
I need to get out of my red shit hole state when that all goes down
Moving from Florida to Oregon was the best decision my wife and I ever made.
The real question is whether the mid terms next fall will happen. They can be avoided by a declaration of war.
It needs to be more than a declaration of war. We’ve had elections and midterms during war.
What’s the purpose? Like, in a positive sense. I just see this as more liberal distraction from actual material change. Making people feel like there is a means of resistance within the current system that has become overcome by fascist.
It gives people the false sense of “something being done”. When it gives us no more progress than a new episode of South Park.
There’s nothing being done here but it’s holding turnip up for ridicule. Even the most diehard MAGA groupies haven’t see how ridiculous that shit is
The purpose is humiliation. That’s it, really. Fascists NEED you to respect them. If not their governing, then you must respect their power and violence and stay in line. If you do not respect them, and laugh at them. They crumble.
Bats and guns help with the crumbling. But laughing is great too.
So sad that you’re downvoted for being correct. People would rather feel good tripe that strokes their egos than actual political progress.
The people of the US are sheep.
Seems like he’s the only governor that read the part about defeating fascists through humiliation. I am not a big fan of his previous policies, but he is the only person that’s even slightly left of center presenting any fortitude right now.
Left of center with regards to AMERICAN politics but very much center right by any other metric.
Still enjoying what he’s doing though.
Newsome is firmly on the right, he doesn’t touch center. Bernie and AOC are centrists. The only person even remotely on the left that has a national presence is Zohran.
The truth is certainly somewhere between our two comments, yes.
If you trust everyone in your coalition it’s not a coalition.
Is it a coalition if you can’t trust them to not betray those in the coalition?
It’s amazing how a man who I considered evil from 2020-2023 has redeemed himself with a sense of humor.
He’s still evil, but the Overton window has shifted to where normal people prefer literally a sack of shit over the current corrupt nazi pedophile
So you’re saying he’s evil that votes Our way.
No bitch. Dats a whole new sentence.
It is by no means a new sentence, it’s a much more PC version of a line from Ambrose Bierce’s “The Devil’s Dictionary” - specifically his satirical definition of African.
It’s just a staffer he hired. It’s not really him.
Then I want to know who the staffer is, because I want to vote for them.
I’m pretty sure Camille Zapata isn’t running for office and doesn’t want to 🤷
WRITE HER IN
“You’re gonna be president whether you want to or not, missy!” 😄
It’s hard to elect a marketing company. However I think this may work
nowadays companies are people legally so why not
/s
and GW Bush was once considered a dunce, now he’s the Republican brain trust.
He was always smart tho - look at any of his speeches as governor of TX.
Yea, his “country bumpkin” schtick was always an act to get popularity and make himself seem like an Everyman candidate.