I have two degrees in philosophy. I quit my PhD with an MA after I realized academic life wasn’t for me.
When people find this out about me… they rarely react positivity anymore. Most are confused, some look upset, others get defensive or crack cliche jokes about how I got a job with a useless degree like that or if I work at McDonalds.
It seems to have gotten way worse the past few years. In my late 20s/early 30s people seemed to react a lot more positively to this fact about my life? People would ask me about it and why I did it and what I studied specifically. I really liked those conversations.
I feel naive as to why philosophy is so controversial for the average person, anymore than English or History is? I really enjoyed my studies and still do them as a hobby now.
I think a philosophy degree is cool as hell. Fuck anyone who thinks otherwise.
Because we hit peak philosophy with diogenes. Everything else is just tedious…
I’m sure OP knows this, but there are many branches of philosophy. On the epistemology side, there’s usually more focus on meaning and knowledge. On ethics, focus on right and wrong. On logic, it’s closer to math and science.
Many people think philosophy just means sophistry and arguing, but each branch has practical applications too. Some of my philosophy major friends ended up going for PhDs. The only career path there was writing and teaching. For those who didn’t, it was to supplement some other degree.
Philosophers are always the first targets of anti-intellectuals. People genuinely believe that studding what’s true about the world is a waste of time.
You can tell that this is a prejudice because the same people who think you shouldn’t get paid for having useless knowledge will still hire economists.
Its because most of them don’t really know what philosophy is, so someone being a master of it makes them feel very insecure - like they’re cornered with a topic they know nothing about.
Those crappy old chairs in the classrooms have no lumbar support.
I wonder if its the age of people you’re interacting with now, as you’ve gotten older yourself? My first degree was in philosophy, and I still read and discuss the subject when I get the chance. In my 20s lots of peers were curious or genuinely interested, and even if they were dismissive, it was often “what’s the point of that?” and could get the interested if I started explaining a classic problem or thought experiment.
Older people however, were generally more disparaging and would openly scoff with “why would we need philosophy!” often followed by “[Science | religion | real life] tells us everything we need to know” depending on their particuar worldview.
At the time I just thought that was what that generation was like, but now I’m in my 40s and I feel like many peers are getting more and more like that. I can only speculate that middle-aged people are less curious and openminded, they’ve come to terms with the world as they see it and they’re interested in getting on with things, not questioning the nature of epistemology or whatever. But the irony is that almost all the major problems that occupy so much of our time as a culture have massive philosophical aspects to them.
Older people however, were generally more disparaging and would openly scoff with “why would we need philosophy!” often followed by “[Science | religion | real life] tells us everything we need to know” depending on their particuar worldview.
Philosophy is just psychology. Psychology is just biology. Biology is just chemistry. Chemisty is just physics. Physics is just math. Math, though, math is just philosophy. Fun joke, but like many such jokes, there’s an element of truth there. While I have met some philosophy majors who find the exploration of logic so compelling that they forget to consider the humanity of their first principals, I deeply respect that Philosophy is ultimately the underpinning of how humans think about the universe in any meaningful way.
Manditory Epistemology mention. (jk)
I don’t think it makes them uncomfortable, I think they just don’t get it.
Most of us are told to go to school to get the job you want, and philosopher really hasn’t been a high demand job since ancient Greece.
Reminds me of this.
Most people assume they are the smartest person in the room and philosophers are well known to think they are smart so no one likes someone thinking they are smarter than you.
I think it’s cool! Congratulations on your two degrees. As to your question, I’m not sure why people would find it negative.
So, where do you work?
It contradicts their religion. Or at least they feel it does. Thinking about morality/existence/epistemology outside the framework of religion is an affront to Jesus… or something.
BUT HOW DO JOB WIF HUMAMBNETEES DUGREE?
That’s basically why.
I think it’s cool as hell. We all need to read philosophy. I really wish I’d had the bandwidth to do something similar along with my own chosen path. Mad respect.
Well, there’s an anti-intellectual streak in the world. And, given the cultural trends of the last 20 years, it’s not getting smaller. So there’s that. Deep down some people will think you think you’re better than them. Deep down some people might be touchy about touchy about their level of education and tired to being lied and condescended to by people presenting themselves as cultural authorieies.
In this dissonant world people are afraid of logic as they may be vexed by what is discovered.