The execution currently being wrongfully attributed to Luigi Mangione changed my view—as has the glorious 10th of September, when Charlie Kirk got Charlie Kirk’d.
I realized that, empirically, I am pro-death penalty in some cases.
Maybe another way to put it: do you believe in self defense? Maybe not “castle doctrine” or “stand your ground” but what about cases of war? If killing Nazis and Imperial Japanese soldiers in a war of defense (WWII) is okay, what about self-defense against the billionaires during a class war? It’s no accident the Epstein associates are all “elites.” This is part of the class war and their exercise of power over us.
The last few years have changed my mind on capital punishment. If the rich and corrupt rig the system to completely avoid all punishment for their crimes against millions, the guillotine is justice. With great power comes great responsibility, and abandoning that responsibility for personal gain at the expense of the lives of thousands of other people should result in the most severe punishment possible.
and abandoning that responsibility for personal gain at the expense of the lives of thousands of other people should result in the most severe punishment possible.
Self-defence. They’ve harmed us all once, they will strive to do it again, and they cannot be rehabilitated. They could never be trusted to rejoin society, or even to socialize among themselves. Given the remaining alternative of perpetual solitary confinement execution would actually likely be more humane.
Eh, ghislane maxwell has been in custody for years at this point, but is probably going to skate because she is owed favors for her silence from people in power.
I used to think exactly like you, but between Epstein and the panama papers, the rich and powerful have shown that they are too well connected, dangerous, and have corrupted the justice system to such a point that the only way to guarantee justice is for them to not exist anymore.
Agreed but this is just another “Tolerance Paradox”
Punishments should fit the crime. I agree Capital Punishment is excessive for the vast majority of crimes committed, like 99.99%.
The Epstein class is a very small number of extremely powerful people who are actively building a world where capital punishment, be it judicial, extra judicial, or a sex crime… is permitted so long as you are part of the wealthy elites.
Simply put, if we do not execute them we are defacto legalizing them because these people already live above the law.
If you’d support the violent overthrow of an oppresive regime by its citizens than you defacto support capital punishment of elites who are above the law.
Agreed but this is just another “Tolerance Paradox”
It’s really not though. Tolerance is what we are currently doing: Not arresting and convicting them according to existing law. Justice should be universal and consistent, not special case after special case. I don’t want to live in a world where powerful people can sexually assault me without consequence, or where I can be murdered by the state for breaking it’s laws. I want restorative justice, I want anyone who is at risk of harming others separated safely from society until they are not, and I want both of these things consistently and without exception.
You mean our for-profit prisons owned by wealthy CEOs that would absolutely love the opportunity to brown nose by putting the rich pedophiles in low-security prisons for a couple months and then letting them out on “good behavior?” If we tear down the system we can build correctional facilities that actually serve their purpose, but for now they’re nothing more than a tool for the very people we’re organizing against. We need to dispose of them - it’s their own fault we don’t have a viable alternative anyway.
All my homies hate capital punishment.
Let them rot in prison.
The execution currently being wrongfully attributed to Luigi Mangione changed my view—as has the glorious 10th of September, when Charlie Kirk got Charlie Kirk’d.
I realized that, empirically, I am pro-death penalty in some cases.
Maybe another way to put it: do you believe in self defense? Maybe not “castle doctrine” or “stand your ground” but what about cases of war? If killing Nazis and Imperial Japanese soldiers in a war of defense (WWII) is okay, what about self-defense against the billionaires during a class war? It’s no accident the Epstein associates are all “elites.” This is part of the class war and their exercise of power over us.
Exiling corrupt kings/elites instead of executing them is literally a function of how the elites have maintained their power through the centuries.
The Epstein files are our best hope at unifying Americans against the neo-liberal DNC and the neo-facsist GOP.
The last few years have changed my mind on capital punishment. If the rich and corrupt rig the system to completely avoid all punishment for their crimes against millions, the guillotine is justice. With great power comes great responsibility, and abandoning that responsibility for personal gain at the expense of the lives of thousands of other people should result in the most severe punishment possible.
Why? What purpose does that serve?
Self-defence. They’ve harmed us all once, they will strive to do it again, and they cannot be rehabilitated. They could never be trusted to rejoin society, or even to socialize among themselves. Given the remaining alternative of perpetual solitary confinement execution would actually likely be more humane.
Fully divesting them from their ability to avoid justice via power and money.
If you’re in a position to livestream a mass execution, they have no more power.
Eh, ghislane maxwell has been in custody for years at this point, but is probably going to skate because she is owed favors for her silence from people in power.
I used to think exactly like you, but between Epstein and the panama papers, the rich and powerful have shown that they are too well connected, dangerous, and have corrupted the justice system to such a point that the only way to guarantee justice is for them to not exist anymore.
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Agreed but this is just another “Tolerance Paradox”
Punishments should fit the crime. I agree Capital Punishment is excessive for the vast majority of crimes committed, like 99.99%.
The Epstein class is a very small number of extremely powerful people who are actively building a world where capital punishment, be it judicial, extra judicial, or a sex crime… is permitted so long as you are part of the wealthy elites.
Simply put, if we do not execute them we are defacto legalizing them because these people already live above the law.
If you’d support the violent overthrow of an oppresive regime by its citizens than you defacto support capital punishment of elites who are above the law.
It’s really not though. Tolerance is what we are currently doing: Not arresting and convicting them according to existing law. Justice should be universal and consistent, not special case after special case. I don’t want to live in a world where powerful people can sexually assault me without consequence, or where I can be murdered by the state for breaking it’s laws. I want restorative justice, I want anyone who is at risk of harming others separated safely from society until they are not, and I want both of these things consistently and without exception.
You mean our for-profit prisons owned by wealthy CEOs that would absolutely love the opportunity to brown nose by putting the rich pedophiles in low-security prisons for a couple months and then letting them out on “good behavior?” If we tear down the system we can build correctional facilities that actually serve their purpose, but for now they’re nothing more than a tool for the very people we’re organizing against. We need to dispose of them - it’s their own fault we don’t have a viable alternative anyway.