• Kairos@lemmy.today
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    23 days ago

    Theoretically, it decreases the value of labor, but there’s so many better solutions to that problem.

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      23 days ago

      In a world where AI fervor is already tanking the cost of labor, I doubt you could even measure the impact of immigrants.

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        23 days ago

        This is the part that’s especially amusing to me.

        conservatives: “NOOOOO DEY TERK ER JERBS”

        Meanwhile, the exact same conservatives: “Ooooooo, AI!”

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      23 days ago

      That really only applies if it’s difficult for the immigrants to become citizens (ie undocumented) or if their immigration status is tied to their employment (ie h1b) that artificially drive down the value of their labor. The current setup is basically indentured servitude with extra steps.

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      23 days ago

      Theoretically. But. Not really true.
      We know who devalues labor. It’s the companies that only pay the bare minimum wage cause it’s the law. Otherwise they wouldn’t.

      It’s the companies that pay under the table to desperate people so they can avoid paying them the legal amount and often commit wage theft and there is nothing undocumented people can do about it.

      Exploitative businesses are the ones devaluing labor.

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        23 days ago

        Sure, but if almost nobody will do the job for minimum wage except for immigrant workers, should those businesses be allowed to exploit those workers instead of paying the wage they would need to staff their businesses?

        Even though the businesses are the “guilty ones” it seems more like a policy issue than a business one, as the business will always do the bare minimum it can get away with. Especially egregious with temporary foreign worker programs. Why have programs that essentially subsidize industries that just exploit minimum wage workers and depress wages? And now racist assholes have a scapegoat in the people accepting the bad deal instead of the people who allow it in the first place.

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          23 days ago

          Who pays the politicians to keep minimum wage low and fines for hiring illegals low to non-existent ?

          You are right, the laws are not in our favor.

          Big business owns politicians and they get policies that benefit them.