The only woman Donald Trump wants us to believe is Maxwell. He didn’t move her to a better prison for nothing.
surely nothing can go wrong by allowing accusations of ruining your life…
You are putting your username to shame by your bad faith argument. Wisdom = zero.
For all the rapist defense rhetoric fucks out there in these comments, and there are a lot of you.
Circumstantial evidence is valid evidence. Let’s maybe consider that, maybe, just maybe, of at least 28 women coming forward, with one confirmed rape conviction, that he has raped multiple women/girls. Just fucking maybe. This isn’t about your brother’s/cousin’s/dude from high school’s crazy ex-wife with a brain tumor, it’s about the president of the United States, maybe hold it to a different standard and stop painting everything with the same brush.
No one here is in defense of rapists. Your accusations is exactly why we don’t just “believe women.” Accusations aren’t proof of guilt.
Also, there’s a thing in law that’s called “precedent”.
If you allow accusations to be accepted as legal proof of a thing, the floodgates open to allow this precedent to be applied to ALL things.
We don’t like our boss? Let’s all accuse him of rape! Boom! Prison.
We don’t like the head of our HOA? Let’s all accuse her of embezzlement! Boom! Prison!
There’s a reason proof is required. And it protects everyone. Even the bad guys.
So you saying trump is not rapist? Or you saying trump is rapist but we are not sure? Are you not sure that he is rapist? Are you dumb?
You ask those questions after reading my explanation, and have the gaul to ask me if I’m dumb?
Didnt answer single question. Though gave the answer for the last one
I don’t answer stupid questions. I find it frees up a lot more of my time than I’d have ever imagined.
Because there have been too many cases where women have been proven to have lied. (Which isn’t to imply that people are lying about Epstein. This is a general point.)
Let people have due process and release the Epstein files.
There’s a huge amount of women plus Trump’s comments about women. It makes sense to believe them
I was going to lead with a snide comment like “Amber Heard has entered the chat”, but here’s the thing… A close friend of mine got absolutely fucked over this way.
One day, out of the blue, his wife went psycho. Divorced him, accused him of abusing the kids, coached the kids to say they were abused, the works.
He lost custody, had court battle after court battle, dealt with the most evil, vile shit said about him, none of which was true.
When he attempted the court mandated visitation she would literally attack him and deny visitation. When he recorded her, she broke the video camera.
Then she up and died from a brain tumor.
He goes to court with the medical evidence for her bizarre behavior, and you’d think that would be it, right? Nope. Court tries to give custody of the kids to HER parents, who are of an age that they can’t care for teenagers.
So her parents have to travel from 4 states away to testify that there’s no evidence to support the accusations, that he should have custody of his kids.
Whole process took 7 or 8 years and he finally got custody just as one of his kids turned 18 and could do what they wanted anyway.
While I agree that your friend’s story sucks, custody cases are handled very differently from rape cases. The justice system is prejudiced against men in that case, whereas in rape cases it is prejudiced against women. In both cases it would be nice if the prejudice is somehow removed.
Your friend has told you a very unusual set of circumstances that sounds awful. Has he had as many women accused him of abuse as Trump has?
Yeah, that’s anecdotal. And irrelevant.
Look, that sounds like a terrible situation. However, if you’re suggesting his experience is an acceptable excuse to assume women are lying if they accuse a man of sexual assault, then go fuck yourself. I’m not even kidding.
Criminal charges require proof beyond a reasonable doubt. An accusation alone is not that. You paint it as assuming women are lying, but you instead want to treat their word as damning proof unto itself, while people like Crystal Mangum, Tracy West and Wanetta Gibson (to name some who got media attention) thoroughly leave the reasonable doubt in place.
And if you think anyone, without even considering gender should just be believed without any evidence, then you too, should go fuck yourself.
A judicial system does not function on feelings or beliefs. It functions on science. You need evidence in order to consider a position fact. Potentially ruining people’s lives because of personal feelings, is fucking evil.
Edit. The person you replied to mentioned nothing about assuming women are lying, all they said was that they are capable of doing so.
Everyone in here pretending that “believe women” means “convict the accused without any evidence.” Straw man city.
Edit- to add: one of the few insightful things Reagan ever said: “Trust but verify”. We can generally believe women about this, while also caring about actual evidence
So what is the evidence that the justice system doesn’t already believe them?
For one, the inexcusable number of untested and/or lost rape kits
