• chloroken@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    Lmao.

    “We’re the good guys because we’re making things worse more slowly” is one hell of a self report.

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      23 hours ago

      Slowing the decline is one aspect of treatment, and the best outcome presently available via electoral action. More significant progress requires alternative methods. Mitigating damage via the electoral vector is more valuable to the efficacy of those alternative methods than whatever it is you’re trying to do by not mitigating damage.

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        17 hours ago

        Holy shit, so many words just to cope that you got owned. Yikes.

        Name another “aspect of treatment” from within your delirious worldview, if voting for the lesser evil is just one aspect. I dare you to elaborate.

        More significant progress requires alternative methods.

        Like what?! You’re so close to reality, yet so far away.

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          16 hours ago

          so many words just to cope that you got owned

          What are you, 12? Why would I be “owned” by a fundamental misunderstanding of electoral mechanisms?

          Name another “aspect of treatment”

          • Promoting progressive candidates in primaries

          • Writing your representatives directly

          • Becoming active in local politics

          • Protesting

          • Arming yourself

          • Building community and mutual aid with your neighbors

          • Unionizing your workplace

          • Collaborating with leftist groups to coordinate action

          And that’s off the top of my head. None of those actions are lessened in any way by voting for whatever the Dems put out in the general election, to keep MAGA out. Any other electoral action perpetuates the acceleration of fascism. We’ve got concentration camps and military in the streets, continuing to pretend that “both sides” are identical is just patently unserious if not deliberately in bad faith.

          Your turn. Answer the question: What alternative action is available at the ballot box that yields a better outcome? I think you keep dodging the question because you know you don’t have an answer. You’re either a shill, or a kid hypnotized by counterproductive idealism.

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            2 hours ago

            I asked you for an example of something that will enact change besides voting and you cough up a listed headed by “get people to vote” and “become politically active (by voting)”. Alarmingly-low levels of awareness.

            Buy a gun? For what? Connect the dots for us: how can gun ownership be an aspect of treatment? What’s the gun treating?

            Talking to liberals about electorate politics is so disturbing. A boot could be on your neck and you’d still pledge allegiance to capitalism and its myriad apparatuses as the One True Way.

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              1 hour ago

              Why am I not surprised that someone who believes it’s impossible to do two different things is incapable of reading past the first element of a list. Honestly, you’re being deliberately stupid at this point. Maybe seek mentorship from someone who had the brainpower to walk and chew gum at the same time.

              Again, not liberal, just not stupid. Work on your reading comprehension and critical thinking skills, then your opinion might hold non-zero value.

              And you still haven’t answered the question. Are you too dumb to come up with an answer, or are you a shill?