Explanation: The guy on the right is Linus Sebastian, a tech youtuber running a fairly large media company. I’d characterize their output as being a mixture of news, reviews and Top Gear style fucking around with tech.
A couple weeks ago he sent Linus Torvalds an e-mail, asking him if he’d like to do some sort of collaboration - mainly because of the name and because he’s a personal hero of his. Torvalds quickly responded, telling him that it would have to be a “there can only be one” type situation, like in Highlander or Mad Max.
So they shot something where they most are just chatting while building a computer together but did the bit for the intro. The video is not released yet.
My money is on Linus
“Lynus” yes, “Leenoos” probably has slower reflexes
“Linus Torvalds is married to Tove Torvalds (née Monni), a six-time Finnish national karate champion, whom he met in late 1993”
Linus is also a mage and temporarily absorbs her karate skills before business trips
I really wonder why Linus Torvalds is giving that clown the time of day.
The entertainment value of LTT is there.
And also some informational. I don’t care about the drama and don’t think Linus is a saint or shit. The videos are good usually. The rest I don’t bother.
And the other one is is a genius, almost saint with anger issues and an enormous enrichment for the world community.
My problem with LTT is that they have demonstrated for years that quality and accuracy isn’t a priority. They also aren’t experts in tech. The drama stuff is just icing on an already bad image.
In your opinion, who is, and is it on a single digit list of people who are for you?
Seeing lots of downvotes, but no answers. It’s always so easy to point out who isn’t an expert, but people get so insecure when they have to provide counterexamples that aren’t just outliers. I guess people fear themselves.
In your opinion, who is, and is it on a single digit list of people who are for you?
I don’t know what you’re trying to say here, but I’m going to guess you’re asking who is a reliable tech expert. So if that’s your question, here’s my answer:
For general hardware/server/enterprise stuff: Wendell from L1
Consumer hardware repair stuff: Louis Rossmann, although he’s been doing less of that for a bit
Linux stuff: anyone of the Jupiter Broadcasting hosts
BSD and ZFS: Allen Jude
More general consumer hardware reviews and stats: Gamers Nexus
All of those are streamers, and a single digit list of those (5 of them). I would have liked to see a linux community recognize entire community of experts, but this whole argument seems to be just people taking their favorite streaming personalities and doing a lot of what’s wrong in reality shows with them. If all your experts are streamers, you have a very flawed definition of an expert.
Thanks for getting your feet wet, though. Louis Rossmann is more of a consumer right’s advocate nowadays, Gamers Nexus and Wendell are more of the same generalists that would compete in LTT’s interest base, and Wendell and the rest have a focus more on the side of *nux and more professional deployments. To me, three out of the five being Linux domained says the issue is less about someone being an expert than what they are expert in, and Louis Rossmann being nudged along with Gamer’s Nexus when he’s sort of out of the domain involved yet him being a key supporting figure along with Gamer’s Nexus criticism in the past hints that his inclusion might be prioritized on that instead. Also, Louis Rossmann is literally trying to get people to avatar Clippy … because lesser evil is an icon of antiAI or some such?
Not criticizing those streamers, just trying to see where a lot of the drama is coming from and whether my own assumptions on that are justified. A lot of them seem to be from people with more expertise in the Linux community. Linus has been pushing for Linux adoption for people outside of the community for some time now, and because he appeals to that outside community more has generally been more effective at it.
All of those are streamers
Wait, so you want me to list maintainers of projects or something? Someone that isn’t well known?
I really have no idea what you’re asking for.
Linus has been pushing for Linux adoption for people outside of the community for some time now
Wouldn’t know. Don’t care.
He’s a lying cheating clown. Literally every single video, review, and product recommendation from LTT prior to the Gamers Nexus video about them is null and void. That means tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands (or more), of people made purchasing decisions based on bogus data.
Then there was the storage server video. That was basically using-a-porcelain-dinner-plate-to-hammer-a-nail levels of “expertise”.
His opinion literally means nothing to me.
I hear you on the frustration with the errors and the Billet Labs situation; those were legitimate issues. But I think there’s a difference between holding someone accountable and writing them off permanently.
The thing is, LMG did take concrete steps after the GN video:
- They paused uploads for a week
- Established an error-checking team (ECC squad)
- Have been building out their lab infrastructure (their PSU testing and articles can be really neat)
Are they perfect now? No. But if we don’t acknowledge when people/companies make genuine efforts to improve, what’s the incentive for anyone to try?
I’m not saying you have to watch LTT or trust everything they say. But the “his opinion literally means nothing to me” stance feels pretty absolute for a situation where they’ve at least attempted course correction. Most of us have professional screw-ups we’ve learned from. I think the question is whether the response was adequate, not whether mistakes disqualify someone forever.
I really have no idea what you’re asking for.
Don’t worry, I think I more or less got a sense of where you are really coming from. That you have no idea what I am asking for is a nail for the impression I got.
I don’t watch them much anymore, but imo LTT was always best when they did stuff similar to Top Gear.
For actual reviews others like Gamers nexus, hardware unboxed, rtings and others imo were always better. What I found frustrating in this regard is that LTT seemingly made a big push into the more serious review space with their labs, but at least from what I can tell that so far hasn’t materialized.
Their labs is not really eye catching. They seem to use the numbers on some benchmarks but in the videos it doesn’t make money.
So I assume labs runs in background for funs sake
Forgive me if I sound ignorant, I don’t follow the news around LTT that closely.
Didn’t the independent review fail to find any proof of workplace harassment?
Or is there a new scandal or update I don’t know about?
No, it’s more just that LTT is basically what the Verge or any ther subpar tech outlet could be if it had actual writing talent and a hint of tech literacy.
Emphasis on a hint of tech literacy.*
Most people actually into the tech scene don’t really watch LTT that often, or find their videos severely lacking.
tbf, LTT does do a better job of providing the lens of an average consumer, and Torvalds has always kept the idea that FOSS really should not disqualify anyone from participating. He is happy to have Linux used and shown off by megacorps or individuals alike.
spoiler
Linus Sebastian’s background is being a warehouse manager for NCIX, which is why he has a very blatant history of misrepresenting lots of products, software, technology, etc, just like your average consumer. He has gotten better over the years, but his content is not intended to provide intense detail, usually just a general overview, even if it includes testing.
There was more that was going on with LTT than harassment.
Like receiving a loaned prototype that was meant for X card, using it on Y card, saying it was crap cause it didnt fit and didnt work, then selling it at auction… Then coming out and saying he had been in contact with teh company to make amends and they have accepted it, only for the company to immediately torpedo by stating they’ve heard nothing from him.
I’d wager things were not going well behind the scenes, either, with the mass exodus of major talent they had over the past year or so, either. Sure people drift in and out of jobs, but for you to have most of your big names all leave in a relatively small window… That hints at behind the scenes shit maybe not being so bueno.
And theres also the “just trust me bro” warranty on the stupid laptop bag, and him basically going on wan show acting offended and shittalking people who were calling him out for a long history of justifiable criticism against shitty warranties, only to pull the same… but hes gods special angel, so obviously its different with him and how dare you question his glory.
All in all, Linus just strikes as an insufferable twat… and sadly it doesnt seem to be fame going to his head either, because he’s been an insufferable twat on Camera since the goddamn beginning of LTT (I never saw his NCIX videos, but I would assume he was much better behaved on them, since he was representing someone elses brand and ran the risk of firing if he acted a twat), Especially when it comes to any valid criticism towards him, or his channel, or methodology.
I don’t follow this either, but devils advocate, a review would find no wrongdoing without evidence beyond someones word. But just because something isn’t provable, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. At my workplace there is a tenured professor that has been harassing people into quitting for 30 years, and they still don’t have “evidence” beyond someones word, not enough to get around tenure. If they were forced to give a statement they would likely say no wrongdoing.
All their product reviews had been found out to be wildly bogus. The stats they show for comparisons in their videos are inconsistent, inaccurate, and self-contradicting.
They’ve lost all their credibility. I have no idea why people still watch their garbage.
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If LTT fans could read you’re post, they’d be really upset with you
I bet they would be, they might actually be more ravenous than Swifties.
Linus V Linus funny
I hear Linus sleeps with nunchucks
as long as they’re consenting
The quote attributed to Linus Torvalds, “Software is like sex: it’s better when it’s free,” emphasizes the value of freedom in software, meaning users should have the liberty to use, modify, and distribute software without restrictions, rather than focusing solely on cost.
It underscores the importance of open collaboration and the long-term benefits of freely shared code, drawing a parallel to the idea that both software and sex are more fulfilling when made with Freedom, not Pressure and its collaborative with good intent for everyone, taking everyone involved into consideration.
Well we have a guy who created the Linux kernel… and a shitty youtuber.
Linuses takes aren’t always the best, and he can be pretty polarizing. But for fun and relaxation, his videos are good. He often plays the role of the average, non-tech-savvy user—someone who genuinely doesn’t know better. The same goes for his “Linux Experiment.” I think it’s important for Linux to reach more average PC users and gamers
I’m seeing double here, four Linus’s!
… four?
The katana are also named Linus.
The horse’s name is Linus
Really? It could have told me at any point while we went through that fucking desert!
Probably didn’t want to be known by you on a first name basis until you got into the regular desert.
Fair.
Thank you, I have now been unwooshed
Just doing my job.
This is getting out of hand, now there are eight of them.
Who’s the other guy?
linus
“May the sudo be with you”
Has this video been published yet?
it might be over an hour long, Linus S. said, so it might take some time.
Video was shot and is being edited, recently teased on Wan Show
Linus will win!
There can be, Only One.
Gosh the LMG shills are nauseous.
“I’m not a fan, I just watch the occasional video but <insert excuses, growing pains etc.>”.
Proper fan girling, but at least fan girls have courage of conviction.
Father Linus T has had that name longer.
