The move would make Florida the first U.S. state to withdraw from mandates credited with boosting vaccination rates and preventing infectious disease outbreaks.
  • phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish
    5·
    3 days ago

    A state full of plague rats. Sounds like a travel advisory from every government in the world that’s not as fucked up as the US’s.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    4 days ago

    I mean if they chose to stay within their borders and die, I’d be perfectly fine with that and would actually support it.

    But they’re going to cross borders and infect us. That’s basically a hostile act.

  • CraigimusPR1M3@lemmy.mlEnglish
    36·
    4 days ago

    I did an essay on vaccines in Jr. High, 20-25 years ago. I was writing a persuasion essay and I chose vaccines. I always try to provide views from both sides… even back then. As a child, in fucking Jr. High, I found Andrew Wakefield’s study that linked autism and vaccines, found all the evidence against it, found out he lost his medical license for it, and realized “wow, there really is no argument against vaccines. These people are fucking idiots!” Again at the age of 12 ish… fucking anti-vaxxer dipshits…

    • OccamsRazer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Vaccines are good as long as they are proven to work, and as long as they are effective enough to be worth the side effects and risks. Big pharma needs to be held accountable and kept honest, because they would definitely try to sell you vaccines that are not necessary or not effective if they could get away with it. It shouldn’t be an all or nothing question.

      • CraigimusPR1M3@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        Go do the research yourself. Vaccines are proven to work. Over, and over, and over again. The side effects are so incredibly rare they might as well be non-existent. Go do some actual fucking research, there is no argument against vaccines. The covid vaccine was in development for 20+ years due to SARS. That’s how it was able to be pushed out so quickly. Go look at all the infectious diseases that are on the rise because dipshit mother fuckers aren’t getting vaccinated or their kids. Its fucking stupid…

        • OccamsRazer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 day ago

          I worked in pharma for ten years. Vaccines work, but some work better than others. There have been many vaccines that were pulled after emergency use approval or because the side effects were not worth the disease that they were trying to prevent. Or like the flu vaccine used to make you mildly sick for a few days, but then you still got the flu because they guessed the wrong strain. You can’t just scream that vaccines work to people who have first hand experience with them not working. Otherwise you risk losing their trust in ALL vaccines. This is a big part of why we have a resurgence in the anti vaccine movement. Anyone who has actually researched knows that the topic of vaccines is more complicated than “vaccines good”.

          • CraigimusPR1M3@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            21 hours ago

            But that is exactly why you can trust them… because they get pulled when its not worth it. You’re correct in that there’s much more nuance than just vaccine=good, but with the totality of the evidence and procedures it can be pretty simply stated with vaccine=good

            • OccamsRazer@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              18 hours ago

              If they have full fda approval, you can generally trust that they are more beneficial than otherwise. With vaccines that have been available and widely used for decades and even generations, there is basically no risk at all. But I understand hesitation with new vaccines, even if I am not worried about them myself. Most people can’t grasp the level of effort and proof it requires to get approval.