I’m thinking either Bic lighters or cigarettes, just to trade

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    24 hours ago

    Not a single mention of bullets? Seriously?

    In an apocalypse, ammunition will be worth more than gold.

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      Maybe in a zombie apocalypse, but what are you gonna do with bullets in a regular apocalypse?

      You may be the only person you’ll ever see for years at a time. You can’t drink them, you can’t plant them, you can’t build with them.

      You could probably use them on yourself if you’ve got a gun that they work in, though, especially if that’s the only one item you decided to choose for long-term survival. 😮

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        The bullets aren’t for the zombies…

        They wouldn’t be much of an issue after a year anyway, but ammo will still be extremely valuable, especially if you’re trying to rebuild society. Gonna need something to defend yourself with against invasions from rival gangs.

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          Gonna need something to defend yourself with against invasions from rival gangs.

          Bullets won’t protect you against an intentionally set fire to your home or base. Without laws, it won’t be gun vs gun situation.

          That said, it would really depend on the type of apocalypse we’re talking about.

          Massive natural disaster? Nuclear? Pandemic? “Zombies”? Global drought? A breakdown of society?

          Bullets might be fine depending on the situation. You might not even survive long enough to use them.

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    Will “fully equipped cruize ship” count as one item? Then I can scavenge them for all parts required to build new civilization.

    And if it is not, then question to OP, what is the limit for the composite items to stop being counted as one item?

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    Mainly maps, but also other informative reading materials such as natural medicine, almanacs and other foraging guides.

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      23 hours ago

      Condition is infinite supply of one item. You have to choose printed Wikipedia book for it to be one item.

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        The surface of the planet is now covered in a 30-foot-thick layer of paper. All survivors have been crushed to death.

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      This really is it. Sure, a high water ratio soup would provide both nourishment and fluids for living, but basic clean water allows for cleaning and the ability to grow food or trade for other stuff.

      Plus truly unlimited means you can start your own river to help society recover!

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    Milk, given an unlimited supply i won’t have to worry about it spoiling. Gives a decent amount of nutrients and water and can use it to make cheese or butter eventually, And is a life without cheese and butter really worth living?

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    What flavor of apocalypse matters a lot. If it’s zombies, ammo becomes critical. If it’s nuclear, ammo is less important and water filtration probably becomes critical. If it’s a gigantic asteroid that blots out the sun, water is easy to find but food is critical.

    For an unknown apocalypse, I think I’ll go with gasoline. Not critical in and of itself, but helps a lot more generally with a lot of stuff, being able to power a generator and move camp more easily.

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    Army MREs, the modern ones.

    Assuming I’m not teleported elsewhere, the place I live has plenty of drinkable fresh water and other supplies, so the only real concern is having consistent high-quality food available, and MREs are engineered to support people in the wild for several months, if not years. In case of a major war breaking out, so it would contain everything I would need to stay alive, or to trade to other people.

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      Even modern MRE’s only provide stable nutrition for about three weeks— they don’t provide complete nutrition. After that, you need to supplement it with other nutritional sources.

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        I mean, they are chock full of all sorts of preservatives to extend their shelf life, but they also have things like toilet paper and wipes, spoons and forks, heating pads, and various other things, and they can be eaten cold if there’s some reason not to start a fire.

        That being said, you can live a very long life eating only MREs. It’s not like if you only ate them for three weeks you would die. You might have some malnourishment, and you might desperately long for something else, but it wouldn’t be the nutrition issue that would kill you. They are designed to keep people alive in situations where bullets are an occupational hazard.

        But if I have an infinite supply of them and they are fresh, then when I encounter people that are starving I can trade it to them for bullets or knives or I can just give them away. Could probably save a lot of lives by being a food producer capable of keeping people alive.

        The largest risk I would face would be growing tired of the assortment.

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          Yeah, not sure what OP’s talking about. Any diet involving a reasonably fresh, large assortment of ingredients will keep you going until you die of old people stuff (maybe early, if it’s really that bad).

          If you eat only hardtack or only rice, that’s when deficiencies become a concern. We’re really quite hearty animals.