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  • MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    14·
    8 hours ago

    This was the death knell for me. It’s been slowly getting worse year after year and the change to disallow third party apps (and later changing it to allow API access with a payment) almost sent me off for good.

    But like… without the r/all page, there isn’t even a reason for me to go there anymore.

  • night_petal@piefed.socialEnglish
    4·
    8 hours ago

    As far as I can tell, this is only in regards to the app. They removed the easy link to r/All (and in the post deliberately failed to capitalize “All” which will make the link fail in order to make it look actually gone to the more ignorant users. You can still access it via the app, but you have to set r/All as one of your social links. It is convoluted and annoying, but works.

  • CelestialImpact@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    17·
    12 hours ago

    Hell this is exactly why I am here at all. I noticed it was harder and harder to use Reddit: algorithm taking over. All moving to harder to find places, and it seemed even then to be more flooded with what was recently looking at instead of just general community vibes.

    Searched for Reddit alternatives…

    I’m so tired of engagement algorithms.

    • starelfsc2@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      3 hours ago

      Yeah I think we take for granted that the replies/posts are mostly by real people here, or at least I do. It’s like forgetting that you have to argue with your OS after using linux over windows.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    15 hours ago

    The last few years have really solidified Reddit’s collapse. It’s not going to happen overnight. In 5 years it’ll be a shell of itself. It’ll feel like Digg.

  • panda_abyss@lemmy.caEnglish
    1651·
    21 hours ago

    r/all is Reddit.

    Are you guys dumb or something?

    This perfectly encapsulates how I feel.

    It’s the only part of Reddit I use anymore.

    • Dragomus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      37·
      20 hours ago

      I thought it was useful to learn of other/new subs so people could join them?
      This will probably end up costing many subs a new influx of users without those users specifically searching for that sub.

  • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netEnglish
    201·
    16 hours ago

    so instead of browsing /r/all, my mobile experience will consist of solely visiting the handful of niche subreddits i have favourited? thanks, I guess?

    seriously this, it’s dogshit if you only go to a few subreddits, even if they aren’t favourited. I gues /r/random will have to do a lot of that heavy lifting now. It’s going to be subreddit 50/50 - either you boring or great subreddits, or furry stuff.

    • Sharkticon@lemmy.zipEnglish
      11·
      13 hours ago

      I dont believe Random is a thing anymore. Its been a while but last I checked clicking on it said the sub had been banned.

      edit: yup banned. It says it was banned 3 years ago due to being unmoderated. Whatever that means.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish
        1·
        19 minutes ago

        oh yea, reddit has a habit of “banning” a sub, if theres no moderation of it for a while, like 3 months? like if the mods disappear, it does happen.

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
        5·
        12 hours ago

        dafuq? r/random used to just be a vanity link that redirected you to a random sub. how you gonna ban that… unless you know you’ve chased off all the people who do the work of making the site you run worth while and showing random subs will just put that on disply

    • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      36·
      17 hours ago

      /r/all was also algorithmically curated. Not to mention easily and heavily gamed by bots, trolls, and state-sponsored disinformation campaigns.

      That’s how we got Trump in the first place. /r/the_donald was constantly shoved in everyone’s face, and even Reddit had to eventually admit the system was compromised. IIRC they adjusted the algorithm in an attempt to counterbalance it sometime around…2017? I forget exactly but it was definitely too late.

      Lemmy’s not structurally better in that regard, unfortunately. If we’re not already inundated with bots and other malefactors (big if tbh), it’s just because we’re not big enough to attract them yet.

      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        10·
        16 hours ago

        It was the late 2010s, yerp. The same time they started inflating vote totals and removed the ability to see upvote and downvote counts separately. Maybe even before 2017… it’s been quite a while now.

      • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        14 hours ago

        wait /r/all isn’t just pulling any post from the database regardless of subscription to subreddit? i just assumed all would be all.

        • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          9·
          13 hours ago

          Sort of. But the sorting algorithm is not so simple that you can call it neutral or natural.

          I don’t think the details of Reddit’s ranking algorithm are public. Even within a single sub, it’s not as simple as counting user votes. That’s weighed against age, and all sorts of fuzzy bot/fraud detection mechanisms. I think Reddit intentionally injects noise into the system. You’ll see phantom votes all the time to keep things “balanced”.

          And then in /all, I believe some subreddits are banned entirely, and again it’s not as simple as “most votes” or “most votes weighed against age”.

          Here’s a Chicago Tribune article from 2016 that mentions the change I mentioned before: https://www.chicagotribune.com/2016/12/01/reddit-to-crack-down-on-most-toxic-users-of-pro-trump-forum/

          Reddit had to change one of its algorithms over the summer to try to stop r/the_Donald from dominating the board that displays all of Reddit’s content, known as r/all.

          It’s light on details and again, I don’t think details were ever published. Reddit is closed-source so really it’s anybody’s guess how they’re really ranking posts.