• zd9@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    All pedophiles who have committed acts should receive the death penalty, period. They have no place in our world.

    There are those that somehow have that urge but don’t ever act on it, and I think they do at least deserve less punishment than what the actual rapists and stuff do.

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      9 hours ago

      And what about the innocents that only get framed for pedophilia? Do they also deserve the death penalty?

      Because you can’t take the death penalty back, you know.

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      There are those that somehow have that urge but don’t ever act on it, and I think they do at least deserve less punishment than what the actual rapists and stuff do.

      They don’t deserve any punishment at all. I can only imagine how horrifying it must be to live with that kind of illness, and the fact that they have enough humanity to control themselves is commendable. I want a future where non-offending pedophiles are treated with compassion by society so that they feel empowered to reach out to community and professional help.

      The real monsters are the people who abuse children when they don’t even have pedophilia in the first place. The ones who just want to inflict suffering.

      As for the death penalty, what about innocent people who are convicted? What about the kid who keeps his mouth shut because he doesn’t want the police to kill Daddy? What about the pedo kidnapper who always murders their victims because it’s easier to not get caught that way?

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        I want a future where non-offending pedophiles are treated with compassion by society so that they feel empowered to reach out to community and professional help.

        Sure, but I’m assuming even if someone isn’t violent, they are participating in CSAM or whatever you call it now, so they are viewing and sharing exploited children, which further encourages the producers of that content to make more. I haven’t researched the entire thing but that seems to make sense. That’s why I said they should be punished for participating. If they’re literally going through life normally without any kind of action online or in real life, then sure good for them.

        edit: saw the second part of the comment, and yeah I don’t have an answer for that, but please share your source on stats that those behaviors would happen. Whatever policy we do should be driven by empirical data, not just vibes.

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      14 hours ago

      I have known two pedophiles in my life. One was my cousin who molested me when I was five, the other was a severely mentally disabled man whose family used him for CSAM as a child.

      The two should absolutely not be treated the same.

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        5 hours ago

        What? Yeah one is a criminal and the other is a victim. Why would they be treated the same?

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      21 hours ago

      All pedophiles who have committed acts should receive the death penalty, period.

      According to actual experts that’d be a great way to make sure children don’t report any relatives who abuse them

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        21 hours ago

        Not to mention, the death penalty should only be for the people in power, including billionaires, CEOs, etc… The government should not have the ability to kill the people. Only the other way around.

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          Here is a source:

          https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/new-voices-victims-advocates-prosecutors-caution-against-expansion-of-texas-death-penalty

          Yes, it’s opinionated, but I wouldn’t expect this subject to have a real amount of actual statistics. It’s more of a case-by-case thing. I can contribute with that I have a friend who was molested by her teacher. It’s not like she was thrilled to hear about it when the teacher had killed himself many years later. I’m pretty sure she would be opposed to the death penalty for him.

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            For every story that the victim wouldn’t have wanted the death of their abuser, how many are there where the victim would sleep better knowing their victim isn’t the in the world anymore? Anecdotal doesn’t mean much on its own when it comes to policy.

            I agree it’s case by case. In the most severe cases, death penalty. There’s lots of gray area, like in anything else in life.