We had some of the highest voter turnout in US history in the last several federal elections. The problem was not turnout as much as tune out.
The exit polling made it very clear what our problem in the US is, and that’s the same tactics that destabilized Crimea and many other places that have fallen to authoritarianism, and that’s social sabotage of our issues. People paid or incentivized to amplify and radicalize the messaging on both sides of every debate and social issue, so that it turns every conversation into a screaming match about utter nonsense disconnected from reality, and the average voter tunes out and defaults to whatever memes are popping up on their twitter or the liberal network news on TV.
I am saying that the polling showed people who voted for Obama and supported Bernie Sanders voted for Trump. People who said they wished AOC would run, voted for Trump. Black and Hispanic voters voted for Trump. Not in one-offs or flukes, but by a large margin. The rest didn’t even know what the candidates represented, they say they just associated Biden/Harris with the cost of eggs at the time, and only Trump seemed to be screaming for any change, so they shrugged and voted for him because they had no idea what else to do.
If this sounds absurd, good that means you still have a functional brain, but this needs to be understood if we are to make changes. The situation out there is much, much worse than we know.
All ya’ll reflexively downvoting this because it makes you more uncomfortable than just “They cheated!” that’s the feeling you need to face and chew on, and direct that frustration towards the old liches who are running our world like circus ringmasters. Dumb fucking circus-ringmasters, people who have all the money and think they earned it and think they deserve more.
From what I understand, percentage of abstaining registered voters have remained relatively consistent, but overall turnout spiked higher in 2020 and 2024 since the 60’s, and that higher turnout would not have impacted these elections to a different outcome.
While I take all polling nowadays with a shovel full of salt, there are some massively important details in this Pew study from exit polling that aren’t being talked about enough.
Though people still need to take responsibility for their vote (or non-vote). It was not impossible or even difficult to keep up with that shit in 2024, and anyone talking about the price of eggs on Nov 5 was a fucking moron.
Thing is, the reality is even more depressing.
We had some of the highest voter turnout in US history in the last several federal elections. The problem was not turnout as much as tune out.
The exit polling made it very clear what our problem in the US is, and that’s the same tactics that destabilized Crimea and many other places that have fallen to authoritarianism, and that’s social sabotage of our issues. People paid or incentivized to amplify and radicalize the messaging on both sides of every debate and social issue, so that it turns every conversation into a screaming match about utter nonsense disconnected from reality, and the average voter tunes out and defaults to whatever memes are popping up on their twitter or the liberal network news on TV.
I am saying that the polling showed people who voted for Obama and supported Bernie Sanders voted for Trump. People who said they wished AOC would run, voted for Trump. Black and Hispanic voters voted for Trump. Not in one-offs or flukes, but by a large margin. The rest didn’t even know what the candidates represented, they say they just associated Biden/Harris with the cost of eggs at the time, and only Trump seemed to be screaming for any change, so they shrugged and voted for him because they had no idea what else to do.
If this sounds absurd, good that means you still have a functional brain, but this needs to be understood if we are to make changes. The situation out there is much, much worse than we know.
All ya’ll reflexively downvoting this because it makes you more uncomfortable than just “They cheated!” that’s the feeling you need to face and chew on, and direct that frustration towards the old liches who are running our world like circus ringmasters. Dumb fucking circus-ringmasters, people who have all the money and think they earned it and think they deserve more.
Turn out rates or total turnout?
From what I understand, percentage of abstaining registered voters have remained relatively consistent, but overall turnout spiked higher in 2020 and 2024 since the 60’s, and that higher turnout would not have impacted these elections to a different outcome.
While I take all polling nowadays with a shovel full of salt, there are some massively important details in this Pew study from exit polling that aren’t being talked about enough.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/
Absolutely correct.
Though people still need to take responsibility for their vote (or non-vote). It was not impossible or even difficult to keep up with that shit in 2024, and anyone talking about the price of eggs on Nov 5 was a fucking moron.