I definitely agree with everything you wrote in your second paragraph, it’s that first part I take issue with. The American fascist movement is going full steam ahead with their Nazi shit, and would do so regardless of Charlie Kirk getting murdered.
Will they try to make a martyr out of him? Of course they will.
I however disagree with the notion that Nazis wouldn’t be Nazis if opposition “took the high road” and debated the Nazis instead of responding to their violence in kind. The Nazis are gonna do Nazi shit regardless, and their justifications will always be bullshit.
Do you truly think the Nazis wouldn’t have imposed martial law if it weren’t for that assassination?
I however disagree with the notion that Nazis wouldn’t be Nazis if opposition “took the high road” and debated the Nazis instead of responding to their violence in kind. The Nazis are gonna do Nazi shit regardless, and their justifications will always be bullshit.
Do you truly think the Nazis wouldn’t have imposed martial law if it weren’t for that assassination?
Again, I don’t see how you get there? I did not say anything like that? I did not say to take the high road, I did not say that the fascists would leave you alone? I said that fascists disproportionately will escalate violence in reaction, I did not qualify that one way or the other.
I am just reminding, that there will be a price to pay, and that it will be expensive and that it is not fun or glorious to be in that position.
Do you truly think the Nazis wouldn’t have imposed martial law if it weren’t for that assassination?
Well, I this specific case they actually didn’t… Martial law was declared from May 27th 1942 (the day of the assassination) until July 3rd 1942. So 37 days after the assassination the martial law over Czech was lifted again so there is a pretty clear connection as retribution to the assassination.
I’m not saying fascists aren’t cruel, I’m saying they will be cruel regardless of any reactions from opponents. Will it maybe give them an excuse to accelerate their cruelness? Sure. But there’s no doubt that their reaction to Kirk’s murder will be to implement cruelty that they were already planning on implementing.
I’m not a fan of violence, but the right hasn’t given us a choice. It’s like if a woman got raped after slapping a guy harassing her in a bar. The rapist was gonna rape regardless, and the fascists are gonna be fascists regardless. It’s victim-blaming.
Is what I said.
I don’t know how you got from that to your comment.
All I was saying is that the fascist will retribute cruel, unreasonably and disproportionately.
Maybe there’s some phrase I misused, English is not my mother tongue, but I still feel that your facetious comment misses my point completely.
I definitely agree with everything you wrote in your second paragraph, it’s that first part I take issue with. The American fascist movement is going full steam ahead with their Nazi shit, and would do so regardless of Charlie Kirk getting murdered.
Will they try to make a martyr out of him? Of course they will.
I however disagree with the notion that Nazis wouldn’t be Nazis if opposition “took the high road” and debated the Nazis instead of responding to their violence in kind. The Nazis are gonna do Nazi shit regardless, and their justifications will always be bullshit.
Do you truly think the Nazis wouldn’t have imposed martial law if it weren’t for that assassination?
Again, I don’t see how you get there? I did not say anything like that? I did not say to take the high road, I did not say that the fascists would leave you alone? I said that fascists disproportionately will escalate violence in reaction, I did not qualify that one way or the other.
I am just reminding, that there will be a price to pay, and that it will be expensive and that it is not fun or glorious to be in that position.
Well, I this specific case they actually didn’t… Martial law was declared from May 27th 1942 (the day of the assassination) until July 3rd 1942. So 37 days after the assassination the martial law over Czech was lifted again so there is a pretty clear connection as retribution to the assassination.
I’m not saying fascists aren’t cruel, I’m saying they will be cruel regardless of any reactions from opponents. Will it maybe give them an excuse to accelerate their cruelness? Sure. But there’s no doubt that their reaction to Kirk’s murder will be to implement cruelty that they were already planning on implementing.
I’m not a fan of violence, but the right hasn’t given us a choice. It’s like if a woman got raped after slapping a guy harassing her in a bar. The rapist was gonna rape regardless, and the fascists are gonna be fascists regardless. It’s victim-blaming.