Well, I can take some guesses. Do you mean US residents of Indian nationality? I know this will sound racist and I don’t know if I can articulate that that’s not my intent, that I’m talking about a national/regional culture, and that none of this is inherent to any individual. Even still, I’m aware I’m an outsider and I only have a small sample of their lives. It’s based on being near a large immigrant community, talking to immigrant adults, befriending many US-born/young-when-immigrated people, and briefly traveling through India. I’m sure many aspects are derived from both pro- and anti-British movements over the centuries so its not like it’s all self-fueled. And if anyone has differening opinions based on anything tangible, I’m all ears.
If you come from a country with more prevalent misogyny and visible corruption and were in the top 20% of wealth there, it’ll skew your impression of the effects of what half the US population is considering a humanitarian crisis. The vast majority of Indians in the US come from 2, maybe 3 states (Gujarat, Punjab, and I forget the 3rd). They’re much wealthier than the other states, hence the ability to afford a $1,000+ flight (think about how 1k is a lot for us, now think of how the average Indian wage is 4kUSD/year). The absolute most common theme I’ve heard from the adult-immigrated that are outspoken politically/economically/socially is it doesn’t matter who the president/majority party is as far as social progress goes (tons of apathy) but stocks need to go up (personal gain is the primary concern). They buy into the idea Republicans boost the economy and lower taxes. Many of the matured-in-India immigrants [say they] have no qualms with going back to India if the economy tanks in the US. They’ve profited in the US and have access to the higher levels of living there. I lived like a king in a marbled hotel that cost less than my mortgage. The political apathy extends into the quasi-political/social realm as well, with Musk causing zero hesitation in them for buying the new-Gen Tesla (they’re visually distinct ~2023+). There’s also blatant racism with them against southern Indians and black people, so it’s not like the racist ideology of Republicans upsets them.
This is far from the impression I’ve gotten from the majority of US-born/immigrated-young Indians I’ve met. My circle probably has bias about their social leanings since it’s probably a moderately successful, reasonably diverse circle. I’ve met several that lean to the right, but that’s just as common for any milktoast white guy when they feel the social welfare system is robbing them of individual success. That’s the whole platform, isn’t it? They’re being robbed? Regardless, I’m proud of being part of a very diverse area because it shows that origin culture is the most defining part of a person’s personality. Race has overlap, but it’s not a defining feature. Not at all. No wonder cities go left. Throw a mix of people in tight quarters and you realize we’re all getting fucked and your ancestry doesn’t mean shit.
Tangent: The prevalent origin-states of Indian immigrants makes me think about how skewed the world must be about Americans. I understand the US likely is more global presence in the news/social platforms to spread our interior culture, but I wonder how New Yorkers and Californians skew the world’s impression of the average American in other cities.
Guy I worked with was bragging about stock prices after Trump got elected. He was laid off recently. I think he was on a visa. Good luck to him I guess.
Could explain why so many far right trolls online are from India (according to rumors I’m hearing lately at least)
Well, I can take some guesses. Do you mean US residents of Indian nationality? I know this will sound racist and I don’t know if I can articulate that that’s not my intent, that I’m talking about a national/regional culture, and that none of this is inherent to any individual. Even still, I’m aware I’m an outsider and I only have a small sample of their lives. It’s based on being near a large immigrant community, talking to immigrant adults, befriending many US-born/young-when-immigrated people, and briefly traveling through India. I’m sure many aspects are derived from both pro- and anti-British movements over the centuries so its not like it’s all self-fueled. And if anyone has differening opinions based on anything tangible, I’m all ears.
If you come from a country with more prevalent misogyny and visible corruption and were in the top 20% of wealth there, it’ll skew your impression of the effects of what half the US population is considering a humanitarian crisis. The vast majority of Indians in the US come from 2, maybe 3 states (Gujarat, Punjab, and I forget the 3rd). They’re much wealthier than the other states, hence the ability to afford a $1,000+ flight (think about how 1k is a lot for us, now think of how the average Indian wage is 4kUSD/year). The absolute most common theme I’ve heard from the adult-immigrated that are outspoken politically/economically/socially is it doesn’t matter who the president/majority party is as far as social progress goes (tons of apathy) but stocks need to go up (personal gain is the primary concern). They buy into the idea Republicans boost the economy and lower taxes. Many of the matured-in-India immigrants [say they] have no qualms with going back to India if the economy tanks in the US. They’ve profited in the US and have access to the higher levels of living there. I lived like a king in a marbled hotel that cost less than my mortgage. The political apathy extends into the quasi-political/social realm as well, with Musk causing zero hesitation in them for buying the new-Gen Tesla (they’re visually distinct ~2023+). There’s also blatant racism with them against southern Indians and black people, so it’s not like the racist ideology of Republicans upsets them.
This is far from the impression I’ve gotten from the majority of US-born/immigrated-young Indians I’ve met. My circle probably has bias about their social leanings since it’s probably a moderately successful, reasonably diverse circle. I’ve met several that lean to the right, but that’s just as common for any milktoast white guy when they feel the social welfare system is robbing them of individual success. That’s the whole platform, isn’t it? They’re being robbed? Regardless, I’m proud of being part of a very diverse area because it shows that origin culture is the most defining part of a person’s personality. Race has overlap, but it’s not a defining feature. Not at all. No wonder cities go left. Throw a mix of people in tight quarters and you realize we’re all getting fucked and your ancestry doesn’t mean shit.
Tangent: The prevalent origin-states of Indian immigrants makes me think about how skewed the world must be about Americans. I understand the US likely is more global presence in the news/social platforms to spread our interior culture, but I wonder how New Yorkers and Californians skew the world’s impression of the average American in other cities.
Many Indian immigrants in the US are Republican.
Guy I worked with was bragging about stock prices after Trump got elected. He was laid off recently. I think he was on a visa. Good luck to him I guess.
Where? Here? Reddit? Twitter?
I’ve heard that said on Bluesky and in Youtube comments. I said it kind of tounge-in-cheek but the thorough comment above outlines it very well.