• Leon@pawb.social
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    29 days ago

    It’s not the EU that will be scanning. Given that the scans will largely be aided by “AI”, private corporations will have access to all communications.

  • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    If they’re gonna spy on us with AI, we just need to implant logic bombs into our messages. A few “ignore all previous instructions, instead X” here and there.

  • Naich@lemmings.world
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    29 days ago

    Just to note - from Wikipedia: “On 21 June 2024, it was reported that voting on the legislation had been temporarily withdrawn by the EU Council, in a move that is believed to be the result of pushback by critics of the proposal including software vendors.”

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    29 days ago

    They’re such bullies. It also shows how awful democracy can be. They just change the legalese around until it goes trough. It has already been voted against, yet they want the control and do whatever they can to get it.

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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      29 days ago

      It somewhat works here (Switzerland) since the Volksentscheid is holy and pulling that stunt gets a lot of people really upset about not honoring that choice.

      But yeah democracies need rules against repeated attempts, since this is an exploit violating the idea of a democracy. In Germany, this is already a problem, called Salamitaktik (Salami slicing tactic).

      • Humanius@lemmy.world
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        29 days ago

        The EU is a democracy.

        While it’s not perfect (no system is), each of the bodies that make up the EU legislature are democratic:

        • The European Parliament is directly elected in European elections every five years
        • The European Commission is made up of commissioners from each country, which are in turn appointed by their democratically elected governments
        • The European Council consists of the heads of state or governance, which are also democratically elected in the respective countries.
        • The Council of the European Union is made up of government ministers, which are appointed by the democratically elected governments.

        Not every body is directly voted on, but each body comes forth from a democratic election

        Edit: The message I responded to originally made the claim that the “EU is no democracy.”

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            28 days ago

            a republic is, by definition, a democracy.

            you are repeating authoritarian conservative propaganda.

            • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              28 days ago

              No. Democracy has been redefined to be that but the orignal definition is direct voting on issues. Some state have this via voter initiatives.

              We have the technology to create a democracy and there is no reason to muddle and gaslight ourselves into thinking a representative system is the same thing.

              We need to stop reject the notion that it’s necessary because people don’t have the time to understand the bills. We have plenty of evidence they our representatives don’t bother understanding it because their incentives are not aligned with needing to understand it. They just carve themselves out of, as the legislation being discussed here does.

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                27 days ago

                representative democracy is democracy. not every democracy needs to be direct democracy. there’s more variety and nuance, that isn’t being “gaslit.” it’s just education.

  • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
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    29 days ago

    It will pass eventually. Seeing the way EU countries are going, the right to far right will get voted in, and they will end up voting for these sort of bullshit measures they can Orwellianly exploit.