The people have on multiple occasions propped up great candidates who were then ratfucked by the Democratic establishment. When the Democratic party sees a candidate who inspires a groundswell of grassroots support - like Zohran Mamdani, Graham Platner, and Omar Fateh - they do everything in their power to keep them from winning.
The reason the DNC is propping up Gavin Newsom right now is to get out ahead of any potential populist candidate. They’re cultivating an image of Newsom as a fighter because they finally understood that’s what people want (took them long enough), but it’s all just WWE style kayfabe. The redistricting is the only kind of real fighting they’re willing to do. Hell, they’re happy to do it. Establishment types love a rigged game; makes it so they can focus on the process without having to worry about bad poll numbers. For the DNC, fighting means competing over how effectively they can rig the system in their favor, a race to the bottom. Once we reach it, no material difference will remain between the two parties.
The problem with people like Zohran Mamdani, Graham Platner, and Omar Fateh is that they’re unknown and untested. Few will ever vote for someone with no experience. Well, no one that isn’t a republican or thinks like one anyway.
AOC would be an amazing option and I’d be happy to support her any way I can if she runs, but as for the others… I’d be wary of voting for people that have little experience in dealing with veteran politicians- because that is what they would be up against. I mean, sure… they promise a lot, but a promise is easy, free, and without need of validation or proof. This sure looks good on paper and sounds fantastic on the campaign circuit. But… just because they look good on paper, have great soundbites, and promise a lot of appealing things, it doesn’t mean they will have what it takes to actually see any of it to fruition.
Politics is incredibly nuanced. And I feel that the mistake being made is that people think that these unknowns will actually accomplish the things they say where it’s just wishful thinking. They have never been tested against opposition.
As much as I’d love to have a progressive that the average far-leftist would approve of, I also subscribe to a more realistic version of reality and don’t punish the good for its inability to be perfect.
The problem with people like Zohran Mamdani, Graham Platner, and Omar Fateh is that they’re unknown and untested. Few will ever vote for someone with no experience. Well, no one that isn’t a republican or thinks like one anyway.
You’re projecting. You would not vote for someone with no experience because you have a conservative-style risk aversion. When the choice is between a known and unknown quantity - and the known quantity is proven to be corrupt and/or impotent - the unknown quantity is preferable. Zohran Mamdani’s primary victory is exemplary of this.
Whatever you say man. I’m not here to change minds. I’m simply making a statement of observation based on being alive for over 50 years.
This type of thing happens every election. Some flavor of the week outrage upsets the locals and we have another “grassroots movement” to not vote for [insert politically charged derogatory].
50 years of trained helplessness. You’ve seen every attempt at bucking the Democratic establishment fail and at some point must have come to the conclusion that trying can only ever cause harm. It’s an understandable cynicism given the circumstances you’ve been living through, but you’ve forgotten that circumstances change.
Prop up someone better that stands a chance instead of untested generic nobodies that no one has ever heard of and maybe you’ll be taken seriously.
Until then, keep doing jack shit and hope that change comes as a result. It’s working so well so far.
The people have on multiple occasions propped up great candidates who were then ratfucked by the Democratic establishment. When the Democratic party sees a candidate who inspires a groundswell of grassroots support - like Zohran Mamdani, Graham Platner, and Omar Fateh - they do everything in their power to keep them from winning.
The reason the DNC is propping up Gavin Newsom right now is to get out ahead of any potential populist candidate. They’re cultivating an image of Newsom as a fighter because they finally understood that’s what people want (took them long enough), but it’s all just WWE style kayfabe. The redistricting is the only kind of real fighting they’re willing to do. Hell, they’re happy to do it. Establishment types love a rigged game; makes it so they can focus on the process without having to worry about bad poll numbers. For the DNC, fighting means competing over how effectively they can rig the system in their favor, a race to the bottom. Once we reach it, no material difference will remain between the two parties.
The problem with people like Zohran Mamdani, Graham Platner, and Omar Fateh is that they’re unknown and untested. Few will ever vote for someone with no experience. Well, no one that isn’t a republican or thinks like one anyway.
AOC would be an amazing option and I’d be happy to support her any way I can if she runs, but as for the others… I’d be wary of voting for people that have little experience in dealing with veteran politicians- because that is what they would be up against. I mean, sure… they promise a lot, but a promise is easy, free, and without need of validation or proof. This sure looks good on paper and sounds fantastic on the campaign circuit. But… just because they look good on paper, have great soundbites, and promise a lot of appealing things, it doesn’t mean they will have what it takes to actually see any of it to fruition.
Politics is incredibly nuanced. And I feel that the mistake being made is that people think that these unknowns will actually accomplish the things they say where it’s just wishful thinking. They have never been tested against opposition.
As much as I’d love to have a progressive that the average far-leftist would approve of, I also subscribe to a more realistic version of reality and don’t punish the good for its inability to be perfect.
You’re projecting. You would not vote for someone with no experience because you have a conservative-style risk aversion. When the choice is between a known and unknown quantity - and the known quantity is proven to be corrupt and/or impotent - the unknown quantity is preferable. Zohran Mamdani’s primary victory is exemplary of this.
Whatever you say man. I’m not here to change minds. I’m simply making a statement of observation based on being alive for over 50 years.
This type of thing happens every election. Some flavor of the week outrage upsets the locals and we have another “grassroots movement” to not vote for [insert politically charged derogatory].
50 years of trained helplessness. You’ve seen every attempt at bucking the Democratic establishment fail and at some point must have come to the conclusion that trying can only ever cause harm. It’s an understandable cynicism given the circumstances you’ve been living through, but you’ve forgotten that circumstances change.
Best of luck.