The answer is capitalism, I know.
But it wasn’t always like this. Why the hell are they allowed to absolutely monopolize all shows and venues? How are there not laws on this?
Is stopping going to any shows the only way to fix this? If so, that wont happen. People are gonna go see their favorite bands (and ticketmonster knows it)
I wish this one was as easy as getting rid of all my streaming services - but they really fucked us over for live shows.
Was my dream to catch Rush on this tour. 1000 cad per ticket. I can go to a European metal festival for the same price and see 120 bands.
Blame the artists too. Neil young capped tickets this year’s tour at 120 with no ability to resell.
Blame the artists too
This. They’re the ones that set ticket prices, and they get the majority of the revenue from ticket sales. Ticketmaster/LN has even said themselves that they don’t make most of their money on tickets, the artists do, but they want to take the blame away from the artist to keep making sales.
Not that Ticketmaster isn’t an issue. Vendor lock-in especially for independently owned venues has been a problem for a long time.
It wasn’t always like this?
Unregulated capitalism. Specifically, unenforced monopoly laws, which the U.S. has been terrible at.
That is true, capitalism deserves its share of the blame but this ain’t it. Capitalism isn’t even done properly in this regard - tyranny is what this is, and for a capitalist society they sure are doing a terrible job at capitalism.
I don’t see how tyranny is to blame. The problem is that Ticket Master has been allowed to create a monopoly on ticket sales and is selling to retailers even though it itself is a retailer, which is an anti-consumer practice. A tyrannical government isn’t the problem here; it’s simply a company getting away with shit current laws clearly forbid. Hence, capitalistic actions being unrestrained by effective, government-enforced laws. That’s capitalism allowed to run rampant, which is a very common problem in American society. The problem isn’t capitalism per se, but capitalism unrestrained by existing laws that are designed to keep it in check.
I would normally advise you to stick to the small stage stuff. Unfortunately anymore you have to go through a ticket service to see most of those shows. Fucking “convenience fees”
Pay cash at local ticket offices. That’s all we can really do.
If there’s no other way to gain admittance then just stop going until they change it. Capitalists won’t change a thing until you affect their bottom line. I know, you have to give up entertainment and supporting broke ass artists, but it is what it is.
I just want my money back that I spent on a show that’s been “delayed” for a year and a half.
protips: don’t goto any events and as the guy with the orange said, SAVE YOUR MONEY!
I SOOO want to see Rush’s tour next summer. Not seeing them for past tours is something I really regret.
Signed up for the pre-sale, signed on the day of AND… FUCK THAT.
I’m not spending the equivalent of my mortgage just to get decent seats. So I fired up the R40 tour video and cranked it up. I’ll just be happy with that.
Consumers could fix it by boycotting them until they cease to exist, meanwhile buy merch from the artists you like.
But this requires people to temporarily sacrifice their desires and experience some FOMO, so it’s unlikely to ever happen.
Very true. Too bad there’s no other way.
Especially for kids who really like any older music, those bands will not be around long (many bands on the sick new world fest for an example are 35+ years old). So yeah I guess whole generations just have to miss out on that music they love.
The answer is capitalism, I know
No it isnt. Its because dumb cunts keep on giving them money. Dont blame FOMO on capitalism. Every single one of us has the 100% choice of not going, and not paying those stupid prices.
On the legal side of things, the DOJ has on going investigations into Live nation-Ticketmaster threatening venues is they use AXS or SeatGeek. Nothing has been done about, not even fines. Live nation-Ticketmaster also lobbys congress and others, and spends A LOT to make sure that its always sunny for them.
The wheels are in motion, but they are slow, indeed. https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-live-nation-ticketmaster-monopolizing-markets-across-live-concert
That was Biden’s DOJ. Americans voted to keep monopolies and raise prices last year.
For the same reason as every other service…
MONEY
This isn’t a problem that’s unique to “capitalism”. It’s a monopoly problem. Even in other economy types this problem would exist. For example, with communism almost everything would be a monopoly.
A free market is supposed to provide us multiple options to take our business, but we need regulation to keep capitalism in check.
We do have laws against monopolies, and there is already a case against Live Nation/Ticketmaster:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Live_Nation_EntertainmentThe way to really fix this is through our legal system and representatives. We need to pressure our representatives to pass better laws to prevent this from happening again as well as electing officials who actual care about issues like this.
Something happened in the last 20 years where billionaires were able to buy the government and monopolies are now no longer illegal or controlled.
I have a rare one, i’ve NEVER purchased a ticket through ticketmaster, so i’m glad they never got my money. Too much free/cheap live music local to me anyway.
I’m pretty sure Reagan’s administration decided to just stop enforcing anti monopoly stuff
Citizens United
Because people keep paying them.
Right here.
Talk is cheap. And people are stupid.
Stop going to events with Ticketmaster.
because people are happy to pay them money
I’m never happy to pay those fucks, they’re just a legal Mafia who controls all the major venues that the bands I want to see play at.
I got to local shows every so often, but I don’t really have a local scene like I did before I moved, so I just don’t go to concerts much anymore.
That’s the answer.
People keep paying so they keep charging. It’s shitty how they operate - they’re playing consumers like a fiddle.
I’ve gone to plenty of local events where ticketing is handled (gasp!) by the venue itself using their own systems! Crazy, right? (I’m sure the ticketing system is leased by them, but it’s still not Ticket Master).
I refuse to go to any even where ticket master is involved. Oh well, guess I’m gonna miss that.
