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There are a lot of communists on Lemmy, and communists tend to support socialist countries. Simple as that. Plus, in the current era where the US Empire is dying, China is presenting itself as a better trade partner for the global south, one focused more on multilateralism and not on imperialism.
Why are they trying to brute-force propaganda? At least be subtle, and bribe us next time.
What do you mean by “brute-forcing” propaganda? Agitprop is one of the main ways communists recruit new members.
Apparently “telling the truth” is now labeled “brute-forcing propaganda” lol
Communists asserting our stances and sharing memes? Straight to jail.
Ah yes, convincing argument: “China good, USA bad”
lol would you prefer for us to lie and say all the countries of the world are horrible, cynicism is the only consistent ideology, and we’re all doomed so nothing matters?
Fun fact: It’s actually possible for two countries to both be authoritarian!
The US killed a million innocent people in Iraq just a few years ago, and is *currently * drone bombing several countries in ME and north africa, and is currently supporting the apartheid state of israel with billions of dollars in military aid.
The PRC has not been in a war since its skirmish with Vietnam in 1979.
The US has a network of > 800 military bases across the globe, and has been involved in regime change in nearly every country.
Which one is authoritarian?
We don’t need anti-American propaganda, we already hate America, my guy
Which one is currently genociding Uhygurs? Which one illegally annexed Tibet and Hong Kong? Both countries are authoritarian shit-holes.
Nope, only one of them is a shithole.
Which one illegally annexed Tibet
I’m pretty sure virtually all of the Tibetan people are happy to no longer be suffering under theocratic feudalism. Happy to no longer be illiterate serfs and slaves, suffering depredation under a god-king. I doubt many of them are sad that CIA asset Dalai “suck my tongue” Lama is in exile. [1] [2]
and Hong Kong?
Entirely legal. In fact it would have been illegal for the UK not to hand it over.
The UK’s 99 year lease to subjugate Hong Kong ended. A lease which had been forced upon Imperial China at gunpoint during the century of humiliation. Hong Kong reintegration after the lease expired was a foregone conclusion. The last minute, US-backed attempt at color revolution failed.
Which one is currently genociding Uhygurs?
Neither, but one of them trained, funded, and organized terrorists in the region, and then made up a genocide narrative, and then imposed illegal sanctions on it using the fabricated genocide narrative as a pretext. Previously.
Idk if it’s just me, but it’s insane to bring up Uhygur genocide, which has not been in the news or mentioned at all for years, while we watch US funded Israel blowing up starving children on a daily basis.
People really need to stop getting their views from the internet.
“Authoritarian” is largely a meaningless term. All it really means is one group using force against another group, but it doesn’t say anything about which group is which. In the US Empire, the capitalists use the state to crush the workers, and export genocide and chaos to the global south. In the PRC, the working class uses the state to keep the capitalists in check as they progress and develop along socialist lines. This stark difference in which class is in power is shown with immense popular support in the PRC:
In the PRC, the working class uses the state to keep the capitalists in check
The state used the police to crush the working class when they demanded the money from the banks that invested it in a runaway housing scam.
You are believing in a fantasy. There are countless countries around the world that are arguably more socialist than China without even calling themselves such. Quite frankly, I trust actions and numbers more than words.
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Ignoring the blatant ableism in your comment, the PRC has been a socialist country since the CPC successully won the Chinese Civil War. The working class is in power, and capitalists are kept in check by the state. I don’t defend the PRC just to criticize the west, but because it’s the world’s most developed and largest socialist state.
Attacking me with ableism isn’t a substitution for a point.
Repeating what you said doesn’t make it more true. China is not a socialist Country. It’s State Capitalism at best. The workers have no right to vote. They do not rule the country.
And by “workers” you mean “foreign megacorps”, i guess?
Okay, but we are talking about a country where you aren’t allowed to form a political party that opposes the CCP, right? How can we tell the difference between “hell yeah, my country is making my life great” and “there is exactly one answer to this survey question that will not get me in trouble”? I always try to keep in mind that I am not immune to propaganda, but I’ve personally known Chinese people who have very explicitly declined to offer any criticism of the Chinese government or go against the party line, even in private conversation, because they didn’t want trouble.
Yes, capitalists are prevented from undermining socialism. If you read the studies, the reason the people of China support their system is because it supports them and represents their interests.
They refuse to offer criticism to you, they will criticize the CCP constantly amongst themselves. They’ve sadly learned right or wrong that westerners are always trying to make China look bad. It’s largely from western news like BBC. Just look up the phrase China, but at what cost. The most hilarious one I read was China is curing cancer fast, but at what cost.
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What would you suggest? Something by Xi Xinping?
Except one country is authoritarian and lying about the authoritarianism of China
China?
Responding to a federated comment because I don’t have a .ml account:
Okay, but we are talking about a country where you aren’t allowed to form a political party that opposes the CCP, right?
There are eight other parties in the People’s Republic of China other than the *CPC
Freedom with the most people in prison
China has noodles though.
Why does he wear military clothing? Can the ICE agents not also just wear civilian clothes?
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What are we, a bunch of ASIANS?!
in only one of those countries do jackbooted thugs roam the streets disappearing undesirables and it isn’t China
At least you have right to remain silent.
What the fuck does this even mean lmao y’all scraping the bottom of the barrel so hard it’s now a tube
They’re just throwing phrases out like right-wing think-tanks, and seeing what sticks.
