• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    “Authoritarian” is largely a meaningless term. All it really means is one group using force against another group, but it doesn’t say anything about which group is which. In the US Empire, the capitalists use the state to crush the workers, and export genocide and chaos to the global south. In the PRC, the working class uses the state to keep the capitalists in check as they progress and develop along socialist lines. This stark difference in which class is in power is shown with immense popular support in the PRC:

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      In the PRC, the working class uses the state to keep the capitalists in check

      The state used the police to crush the working class when they demanded the money from the banks that invested it in a runaway housing scam.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/11/china-violent-clashes-at-protest-over-frozen-rural-bank-accounts

      You are believing in a fantasy. There are countless countries around the world that are arguably more socialist than China without even calling themselves such. Quite frankly, I trust actions and numbers more than words.

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        Ignoring the blatant ableism in your comment, the PRC has been a socialist country since the CPC successully won the Chinese Civil War. The working class is in power, and capitalists are kept in check by the state. I don’t defend the PRC just to criticize the west, but because it’s the world’s most developed and largest socialist state.

        Attacking me with ableism isn’t a substitution for a point.

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          Repeating what you said doesn’t make it more true. China is not a socialist Country. It’s State Capitalism at best. The workers have no right to vote. They do not rule the country.

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      Okay, but we are talking about a country where you aren’t allowed to form a political party that opposes the CCP, right? How can we tell the difference between “hell yeah, my country is making my life great” and “there is exactly one answer to this survey question that will not get me in trouble”? I always try to keep in mind that I am not immune to propaganda, but I’ve personally known Chinese people who have very explicitly declined to offer any criticism of the Chinese government or go against the party line, even in private conversation, because they didn’t want trouble.

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        Yes, capitalists are prevented from undermining socialism. If you read the studies, the reason the people of China support their system is because it supports them and represents their interests.

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        They refuse to offer criticism to you, they will criticize the CCP constantly amongst themselves. They’ve sadly learned right or wrong that westerners are always trying to make China look bad. It’s largely from western news like BBC. Just look up the phrase China, but at what cost. The most hilarious one I read was China is curing cancer fast, but at what cost.