Macklemore got dropped from ed shareens tour, after he made states ment in support of palestine. Kraft(stadium owner) pressured shareen to drop him, ed happily complied. SHareen remained somewhat silent, as not to upset Kraft, he is totally complicit though.
THen Kraft alledgely, banned him from his tadiums than told other FB stadium owners to blacklist him.
Macklemor did his first part, he said some thing about the Palestinian Genocide so Sheeran dump him. Now other act are dumpings the Sheeran tour and people are laughing at him
At the start, when Kraft and the other owners kicked Macklemore off the tour. Sheeran may have been deciding what to do, back Macklemore or continue with the concert for anyone that had booked high school off the next day etc.
But at this stage it seems that Sheeran has done everything wrong. He didn’t back Macklemore early on, but now every other act on the tour, including his band, did. More importantly, he was given a massive chance to condone genocide and stayed silent.
Imagine the amount of respect Sheeran could have garnered by announcing that the tour was cancelled.
It’s problematic, because even if you don’t mean anything by it, it still normalizes and perpetuates christianity at a time when christian nationalism and Dominionism are on the rise and have taken over the US government. It also assumes the person you are talking to is also christian. Third, it reinforces patriarchy by assuming the person you are talking to is male.
I have no idea how it caught on and become popular, but I’m hoping that with a little self-reflection, we can all move away from it.
As an atheist who’s gone through deconstruction, I hear your point. But I see it more as taking the piss out of the phrase, but sure, what exclamatory would you rather I use?
Ed and his management could have at the very least threatened a lawsuit or breach of contract rather than allow Kraft et al. to muzzle his “friend” and supporting act. Hell, all of the artists on the tour should sue all the owners and seek punitive damages.
I’d be shocked if the venue contract didn’t have a morals clause specifically for situations like this. Same with the tour contract.
What people should be able to do and what they’re actually able to do are often different things. I’m not sure why everyone assumes that no one asked their legal department before making decisions.
Ed has a reported net worth of 300 million dollars. Hes a 1/3rd billionaire.
He can do a lot fucking more than youre giving him credit for, including canceling a tour because he opposes genocide while standing up for freedom for artists to speak truth to power. The blowback would have been 99% focused on the billionaire genocide supporters, who likely would have folded or at least made PR based concessions.
He did none of these things but claim to be apolitcal when he is not, and pretend he was powerless as someone who has “superyaught” money.
Macklemore got dropped because he said some pro Palestine statements and the billionaire owner of the patriots and one of the stadiums they were arranged a boycott of many stadium owners, basically saying the tour would lose a ton of its venues if they kept him on
On one hand, ed Sheeran is comfortably extreme upper class with millions of net worth and cancelling the tour wouldn’t have really hurt him (except maybe not being able to buy a third vacation villa). On the other hand, I somewhat feel for him because the tour certainly has a ton of people employed who are very much not in that echelon of wealth. Bus drivers, caterers, security, roadies, lighting and sound people, merch desk people, etc. cancelling a tour of this size would mean fucking over dozens if not hundreds of people well beyond the headliner and openers that are financially comfortable and can easily afford to take a public stance that may cost them employment
He sucks and his music sucks but I get why this wasn’t an obvious “go fuck yourself” choice. The real villain is Robert Kraft, the literal oligarch that can arrange a blacklisting of a major concert tour at a moments notice over having his delicate feelings hurt by someone not denying a genocide. And that brings the bigger point up: I’m sure Kraft is pleased that his name barely comes up in this discussion and Sheeran catches the majority of the heat
There’s nothing controversial about it. “Think about the bus drivers” what about the dead children, and their families? And I’m not singling you out. It’s just part of a broader frustration I have. I seriously don’t think people truly understand that once you’re gone, that’s it. This duality isn’t even close to being symmetric.
Why does he need to tour stadiums? “Ed Sheeron touring small venues due to stance on Palestine” wouldn’t that get some heads rolling?
This herd cowardice shit really upsets me.
The vast majority of humans are very much “monkey see, monkey do.” Or in other words, their roll models inform their decision making. So celebrity choices absolutely have an impact on what the general public thinks.
I don’t inherently disagree with you and I certainly don’t think loss of job is equivalent to loss of life, of course. But I’m just saying it’s not as simple as “he’s gotta secure the bag so he rolled over”
He is definitely complicit but he was forced into that position by a Zionist who knew he could put him in a very difficult position where either way Sheeran would catch all the flack. I’m not saying we should give his position a pass but I am saying the focus might make more sense on the oligarch that forced this situation over the soulless stooge that has decided to play the oligarchs game
Wait, what’s going on here? Did he do something or is this just a random shitpost?
Macklemore got dropped from ed shareens tour, after he made states ment in support of palestine. Kraft(stadium owner) pressured shareen to drop him, ed happily complied. SHareen remained somewhat silent, as not to upset Kraft, he is totally complicit though.
THen Kraft alledgely, banned him from his tadiums than told other FB stadium owners to blacklist him.
Macklemor did his first part, he said some thing about the Palestinian Genocide so Sheeran dump him. Now other act are dumpings the Sheeran tour and people are laughing at him
Sheeran didn’t dump him. Kraft did. Sheeran stood idly by and didn’t back him. it’s an awkward position to be in, but at the moment
Genociders vs Anti-Genociders
the genocider cunts are winning.
People need to properly join in the boycotts of the genociders products, affiliations and services.
They’re the ones currently doing the cancelling. It’s fucking ridiculous.
We need to make it easier for cowards like Sheeran to stand up to them.
i think you were looking for the word complicit.
An awkward position? My brother in Christ, what is awkward about denouncing genocide?
At the start, when Kraft and the other owners kicked Macklemore off the tour. Sheeran may have been deciding what to do, back Macklemore or continue with the concert for anyone that had booked high school off the next day etc.
But at this stage it seems that Sheeran has done everything wrong. He didn’t back Macklemore early on, but now every other act on the tour, including his band, did. More importantly, he was given a massive chance to condone genocide and stayed silent.
Imagine the amount of respect Sheeran could have garnered by announcing that the tour was cancelled.
Unfortunately, the answer is money.
Please reconsider the brother in christ phrase.
It’s problematic, because even if you don’t mean anything by it, it still normalizes and perpetuates christianity at a time when christian nationalism and Dominionism are on the rise and have taken over the US government. It also assumes the person you are talking to is also christian. Third, it reinforces patriarchy by assuming the person you are talking to is male.
I have no idea how it caught on and become popular, but I’m hoping that with a little self-reflection, we can all move away from it.
As an atheist I can only say: Jesus christ, what a comment. Leave our memes alone, for God’s sake! Tabarnac!
As an atheist who’s gone through deconstruction, I hear your point. But I see it more as taking the piss out of the phrase, but sure, what exclamatory would you rather I use?
“My sibling in spaghetti”?
My fellow nood in the sauce
Ramen!
As a pastafarian this offends me
Yup, I’ll just take that and casually use it.
YES. Yes that’s the replacement phrase.
I’m not the person you responded to, but yeah sibling in spaghetti is much better. Bonus points for gender neutral.
An awkward position? Tabernak! what is awkward about denouncing genocide
Still Christian but less immediately known.
Oh wow, alright. Thank you!
It was the venues and tour managers that did it, not Ed.
If ed said he stays, they would have let him stay, the Kraft and Tour Manager thing is just deflection
That’s not how things work in the music industry.
Ed and his management could have at the very least threatened a lawsuit or breach of contract rather than allow Kraft et al. to muzzle his “friend” and supporting act. Hell, all of the artists on the tour should sue all the owners and seek punitive damages.
I’d be shocked if the venue contract didn’t have a morals clause specifically for situations like this. Same with the tour contract.
What people should be able to do and what they’re actually able to do are often different things. I’m not sure why everyone assumes that no one asked their legal department before making decisions.
“Genocide bad”
🤔
Ed has a reported net worth of 300 million dollars. Hes a 1/3rd billionaire.
He can do a lot fucking more than youre giving him credit for, including canceling a tour because he opposes genocide while standing up for freedom for artists to speak truth to power. The blowback would have been 99% focused on the billionaire genocide supporters, who likely would have folded or at least made PR based concessions.
He did none of these things but claim to be apolitcal when he is not, and pretend he was powerless as someone who has “superyaught” money.
MACKLEMORE DROPPED FROM ED SHEERAN TOUR AFTER ONSTAGE ‘FREE PALESTINE’ STATEMENTS
Wow, thank you!
Thank Macklemore. I just provided a link.
🖖
Macklemore got dropped because he said some pro Palestine statements and the billionaire owner of the patriots and one of the stadiums they were arranged a boycott of many stadium owners, basically saying the tour would lose a ton of its venues if they kept him on
On one hand, ed Sheeran is comfortably extreme upper class with millions of net worth and cancelling the tour wouldn’t have really hurt him (except maybe not being able to buy a third vacation villa). On the other hand, I somewhat feel for him because the tour certainly has a ton of people employed who are very much not in that echelon of wealth. Bus drivers, caterers, security, roadies, lighting and sound people, merch desk people, etc. cancelling a tour of this size would mean fucking over dozens if not hundreds of people well beyond the headliner and openers that are financially comfortable and can easily afford to take a public stance that may cost them employment
He sucks and his music sucks but I get why this wasn’t an obvious “go fuck yourself” choice. The real villain is Robert Kraft, the literal oligarch that can arrange a blacklisting of a major concert tour at a moments notice over having his delicate feelings hurt by someone not denying a genocide. And that brings the bigger point up: I’m sure Kraft is pleased that his name barely comes up in this discussion and Sheeran catches the majority of the heat
There’s nothing controversial about it. “Think about the bus drivers” what about the dead children, and their families? And I’m not singling you out. It’s just part of a broader frustration I have. I seriously don’t think people truly understand that once you’re gone, that’s it. This duality isn’t even close to being symmetric.
Why does he need to tour stadiums? “Ed Sheeron touring small venues due to stance on Palestine” wouldn’t that get some heads rolling?
This herd cowardice shit really upsets me.
The vast majority of humans are very much “monkey see, monkey do.” Or in other words, their roll models inform their decision making. So celebrity choices absolutely have an impact on what the general public thinks.
Anyway thats the end of my rant.
I get the sentiment, but canceling the concert won’t bring the kids back to life, so the bus driver argument is valid.
Still, canceling would have been the right thing to do and would at least put Kraft squarely in the headlines. Alas…
I don’t inherently disagree with you and I certainly don’t think loss of job is equivalent to loss of life, of course. But I’m just saying it’s not as simple as “he’s gotta secure the bag so he rolled over”
He is definitely complicit but he was forced into that position by a Zionist who knew he could put him in a very difficult position where either way Sheeran would catch all the flack. I’m not saying we should give his position a pass but I am saying the focus might make more sense on the oligarch that forced this situation over the soulless stooge that has decided to play the oligarchs game
We’re all pointing out that he had the opportunity to use his platform to be on the right side of history and didn’t.
He had the chance and the opportunity and the platform.
One took it. Kudos to them.
The other let someone else take the fall and then deflected.
Sheeran has enough money to pay all those folks, refund the tickets, and skip any venues owned by shitheads.
There is no reason to cover for this twit.