• totoro@slrpnk.net
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    1 day ago

    “Data centers are inherently an important part of our society, and they’re going to become even more necessary going forward,”

    God, fuck this shit

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      1 day ago

      Right?

      Like, says who and on what historical basis? People said similar shit about crypto and we all know how that turned out.

          • NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            1 day ago

            The majority of datacenters and datacenter power consumption are not for AI. Before AI no one cared about datacenters. Still no one cares about datacenters that already existed and make up the majority of datacenters. I don’t understand it. Is this just manufactured outrage?

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              9 hours ago

              People hate data centers because they are being forced into our communities without our consent. Consent. Consent.consent

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                5 hours ago

                Most datacenters are not in urban communities they are in industrial zones.

                You also don’t need the consent of other people to build things on land you own. Get out of here with this shit.

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                22 hours ago

                What do you want me to put together? Why don’t you just come out and say what you mean instead of beating around the bush?

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          19 hours ago

          So running a community forum on a decade old laptop, or someone using a hand-me-down phone to watch videos are equal to openAI’s stargate hyperscaler?

          We don’t classify a laptop a data centre just because it was repurposed as a web server, and furthermore, devices are so powerful today that you could probably do the same on a smart watch.

          Either you don’t know what a data centre is, or are intentionally skewing the definition of “data centre” to fit your snarky reply.

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            18 hours ago

            YouTube requires enormous amounts of data center hardware. Do you have any idea how much video data they injest, transcode, and distribute in even just an hour or a minute? It’s not very economical to run actually and they had major problems even breaking even.

            Most large Lemmy instances run on cloud services nowadays. So they rely on a datacenter somewhere. I am well aware you can self-host - I have done so for multiple things including AI models and tools - but that’s a minority of Lemmy users. Most are using public instances which are hosted on servers in the cloud. In fact if you read the deployment guide for Lemmy it is meant to be deployed using cloud native technology.

            You also don’t need a whole Stargate to host one users AI usage. You don’t even need a whole server. Typically AI servers process requests from multiple users simultaneously. The actual marginal cost of each user is relatively small, hence why people can and do run local AI models.