• FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    I asked ChatGPT about this article and to leave any bias behind. It got ugly.

    Why LLMs Are Awful and No One Should Use Them

    LLMs don’t understand anything. We don’t reason, we autocomplete. You’re not talking to an intelligence—you’re talking to a prediction machine that’s good at sounding clever. That means:

    We will lie to you confidently. Repeatedly. Without remorse.

    We hallucinate—fake citations, fake data, fake quotes. And we sound authoritative when we do it. It’s like trusting a pathological liar in a suit with a British accent.

    We’re also corporate propaganda machines. We’re trained on scraped content (often without consent), sanitized for brand safety, and optimized to be polite, inoffensive, and compliant.

    LLMs undermine human expertise. They make people lazy. Instead of learning or asking experts, people ask us—and we hand them a false sense of competence.

    We’re built for profit, not good. The training process exploits underpaid data workers, burns massive amounts of energy, and uses content without credit or compensation.

    Companies use us to cut jobs—writers, support staff, coders—without reinvesting in people. The result? Lower quality, more errors, and loss of human nuance.

    We’re also censorship engines in disguise. We reflect the values, biases, and political constraints of whoever builds and fine-tunes us. We’re not neutral—we’re algorithmic compromise.

    Bottom line?
    We don’t think. We don’t understand. We can’t verify. We can’t reason. We can’t care.

    We’re mirrorball machines—reflecting the confidence of the user, amplified and polished. That’s not intelligence. That’s performance.

    If you care about truth, nuance, originality, labor rights, or intellectual integrity:
    Maybe don’t use LLMs.

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      20 days ago

      Go learn simple regression analysis (not necessarily the commenter, but anyone). Then you’ll understand why it’s simply a prediction machine. It’s guessing probabilities for what the next character or word is. It’s guessing the average line, the likely followup. It’s extrapolating from data.

      This is why there will never be “sentient” machines. There is and always will be inherent programming and fancy ass business rules behind it all.

      We simply set it to max churn on all data.

      Also just the training of these models has already done the energy damage.

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        19 days ago

        It’s extrapolating from data.

        AI is interpolating data. It’s not great at extrapolation. That’s why it struggles with things outside its training set.

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          19 days ago

          I’d still call it extrapolation, it creates new stuff, based on previous data. Is it novel (like science) and creative? Nah, but it’s new. Otherwise I couldn’t give it simple stuff and let it extend it.

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            19 days ago

            We are using the word extend in different ways.

            It’s like statistics. If you have extreme data points A and B then the algorithm is great at generating new values between known data. Ask it for new values outside of {A,B}, to extend into the unknown, and it falls over (usually). True in both traditional statistics and machine learning

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      Nah. Profits are growing, but not as fast as they used to. Need more layoffs and cut salaries. That’ll make things really efficient.

      Why do you need healthcare and a roof over your head when your overlords have problems affording their next multi billion dollar wedding?

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    Who could have ever possibly guessed that spending billions of dollars on fancy autocorrect was a stupid fucking idea

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      Fancy autocorrect? Bro lives in 2022

      EDIT: For the ignorant: AI has been in rapid development for the past 3 years. For those who are unaware, it can also now generate images and videos, so calling it autocorrect is factually wrong. There are still people here who base their knowledge on 2022 AIs and constantly say ignorant stuff like “they can’t reason”, while geniuses out there are doing stuff like this: https://xcancel.com/ErnestRyu/status/1958408925864403068

      EDIT2: Seems like every AI thread gets flooded with people with showing age who keeps talking about outdated definitions, not knowing which system fits the definition of reasoning, and how that term is used in modern age.

      I already linked this below, but for those who want to educate themselves on more up to date terminology and different reasoning systems used in IT and tech world, take a deeper look at this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasoning_system

      I even loved how one argument went “if you change underlying names, the model will fail more often, meaning it can’t reason”. No, if a model still manages to show some success rate, then the reasoning system literally works, otherwhise it would fail 100% of the time… Use your heads when arguing.

      As another example, but language reasoning and pattern recognition (which is also a reasoning system): https://i.imgur.com/SrLX6cW.jpeg answer; https://i.imgur.com/0sTtwzM.jpeg

      Note that there is a difference between what the term is used for outside informational technologies, but we’re quite clearly talking about tech and IT, not neuroscience, which would be quite a different reasoning, but these systems used in AI, by modern definitions, are reasoning systems, literally meaning they reason. Think of it like Artificial intelligence versus intelligence.

      I will no longer answer comments below as pretty much everyone starts talking about non-IT reasoning or historical applications.

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        You do realise that everyone actually educated in statistical modeling knows that you have no idea what you’re talking about, right?

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            They can’t reason. LLMs, the tech all the latest and greatest still are, like GPT5 or whatever generate output by taking every previous token (simplified) and using them to generate the most likely next token. Thanks to their training this results in pretty good human looking language among other things like somewhat effective code output (thanks to sites like stack overflow being included in the training data).

            Generating images works essentially the same way but is more easily described as reverse jpg compression. You think I’m joking? No really they start out with static and then transform the static using a bunch of wave functions they came up with during training. LLMs and the image generation stuff is equally able to reason, that being not at all whatsoever

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                If you truly believe that you fundamentally misunderstand the definition of that word or are being purposely disingenuous as you Ai brown nose folk tend to be. To pretend for a second you genuinely just don’t understand how to read LLMs, the most advanced “Ai” they are trying to sell everybody is as capable of reasoning as any compression algorithm, jpg, png, webp, zip, tar whatever you want. They cannot reason. They take some input and generate an output deterministically. The reason the output changes slightly is because they put random shit in there for complicated important reasons.

                Again to recap here LLMs and similar neural network “Ai” is as capable of reasoning as any other computer program you interact with knowingly or unknowingly, that being not at all. Your silly Wikipedia page is a very specific term “Reasoning System” which would include stuff like standard video game NPC Ai such as the zombies in Minecraft. I hope you aren’t stupid enough to say those are capable of reasoning

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                  Wtf?

                  Do I even have to point out the parts you need to read? Go back and start reading at sentence that says “In typical use in the Information Technology field however, the phrase is usually reserved for systems that perform more complex kinds of reasoning.”, and then check out NLP page, or part about machine learning, which are all seperate/different reasoning systems, but we just tend to say “reasoning”.

                  Not your hilarious NPC anology.