There appear to be a vast number of iberals who are indeed raging angry by the murders, represented by people wearing the Liberal badge and not reported and not reflected.
No elected liberal leader has decried this ongoing genocide. Every single one supports Israel, and other settler colonial projects just like it. Liberal countries have been the main perpetrators of colonialism in the modern era, so this is nothing surprising.
So vote against them and teach them a lesson.
Bourgeois democracy (ie capitalist dictatorship) is a rigged game, you can’t beat capitalists at a game where they stack the candidates / players.
Even the ancient greeks knew that representative “democracy” based on elections always results in an aristrocracy and not democracy, because wealthy / upper class candidates and families are the only ones who have enough money to fund their campaigns and win the popularity contest, and then run the governments in the interests of their own class.
It serves as a distracting theatre piece / reality tv show, gives the illusion of democracy, platforms the reactionary views of the ruling class, and builds consent for the system itself.
Marxists rediscovered that by the 1800s, and liberals can’t wrap their heads around it in 2025.
Even alternative voting systems don’t make a difference, that just makes the candidate stacking more expensive. Whether in japan, australia, the UK, France, bourgeios parliamentarism has proven to be the safest and most stable shell for capitalist dictatorship.
Democracy fucking sucks. However, authoritarianism is so much worse.
Bourgeois democracy (ie capitalist dictatorship
I don’t think you know what a dictatorship is. The term you’re looking for is oligarchy.
In all fairness, a liberal is just a Nazi that has never actually experienced suffering before.
So liberals are nazis now? I’ll pen that in under alt-right nationalists, republicans, conservatives in general, democrats…
Like seriously, we are seriously watering down the word Nazi by just labeling everyone we don’t like as a racist supporter of fascism. Besides, how can every blue state and blue city be riddled with Nazis if they are the one’s constantly complaining that our government is devolving into an authoritarian state? RIDDLE ME!!
It’s really very simple.
If you voted for Palestinian extermination, regardless of your reasons for doing so, you are a nazi.
Liberals spent a year browbeating anyone who pointed this out as a Hamas supporter (based), “unpragmatic” (hilarious) hysterical tankies who could never be pleased. We tried to warn you feckless pack-followers that you were signing on to the ultimate crime. This was your response: to plug your ears and laugh
We tried to warn you, and now It’s too late for you motherfuckers to pretend to care about “aurhoritarianism” when you were happy to support it being inflicted on brown people out of sight and out of mind. I hope brunch was worth it, because you’re social poison now.
Baffling how this got downvoted to lemmy’s equivalent of oblivion with no rebuttals by anyone, you’re absolutely right.
There were several rebuttals, you just can’t see them. Plus, the link between liberalism and fascism is well-established, both are capitalist ideologies, and since capitalism decays, liberalism leads to fascism.
That is such a shoddy argument. Communism leads to fascism, we have examples. Socialism leads to fascism, we have examples. Monarchy leads to fascism, we have examples. ALL political schemes can lead to fascism, and it has everything to do with the pursuit of power by a few and very little to do with the system of governance itself. Of course Capitalism can lead to fascism; where ever there is fair compromise to be exploited there will be an opportunity for fascism.
Also, I didn’t see any other replies to my comment. Unless you think I’m going to stalk the person I replied to and nag them to reply to me directly, I don’t think that counts :/
Fascism is specifically a bourgeois ideology that emerges when property rights are in danger and the ruling class needs to assert itself. Fascism isn’t just “when the government does stuff I don’t like,” it’s an irrational ideology that emerges out of the rational interests of the bourgeoisie when capitalism is in crisis.
I believe you missed @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net’s comment.
Maybe I’ve been on lemmy too long. So confused on who liberals are anymore.
it comes down to capitalism vs socialism.
progressive + capitalist = liberal
progressive + socialist = leftist
Well. That one makes sense. So I’m leftist…… prepares for hate
Lemmy is primarily developed by Marxist-Leninists, and we have a ton of Marxists and anarchists in general. You aren’t going to get hate for being a leftist unless you’re on a more liberal instance.
US politics is weird. Liberal in the rest of the world is more aligned to socialism than capitalism. Leftist is way more extreme.
Liberalism isn’t aligned to socialism anywhere, socialism is antithetical to liberalism. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism, which is diametrically opposed to socialism.
That is classical liberalism. It doesn’t reflect modern liberal ideals which have aligned more with socialism, and a lot of european parties regularly form coalitions with socialist or social-democratic parties because their ideals align so often in modern times.
Liberalism cannot align with socialism, they are diametrically opposed. Liberalism supports private property while socialism supports public ownership of property. Social Democracy is a subset of liberalism. “Modern liberalism” is just maintaining capitalism.
Liberal in the rest of the world is more aligned to socialism
I agree that US political vocabulary is weird. But this characterization just isn’t true at all.
For example, in Japan, the Liberal Democratic Party is ideologically conservative. Same story with the Australian Liberal Party.
Whereas Liberalism in the US is associated with the left of the Overton Window.
This. Never understood the term in the first place, is this something I’m not american enough to understand? Isn’t there a substantial difference between right-liberal and left-liberal?
I think you have a typo. Libs don’t support Israel in anything.
What were you saying?
I have news for you. The BBC isn’t a single liberal entity. Some parts are liberal for sure, but mostly it just “looks” liberal some of the time, especially the news and politics teams who essentially do whatever the current UK government wants, under threat of defunding.
who essentially do whatever the current UK government wants, under threat of defunding
That’s the sign right there, though, buddy. The UK government is liberal. Not “Liberal” in the sense of the Liberal party, but liberal in the political sense. Even when the Torries are in power.
Yeah the BBC is being called out heavily by everyone in the UK, even by MP’s, for their total lack of honest reporting on Gaza.
MP’s decrying dishonest reporting, yet continuing to fund the genocide. Quoting yourself:
Individual politicians might seem Liberal but are not, they are just politicians playing games to stay in power.
Glad you agree that OP’s picture is inaccurate. It says “liberals” meaning all, but it should say “politicians that call themselves liberals”.
Nope. The liberals who voted in the liberal politicians are the ones who support this slide. You are personally responsible for that. You keep believing the newest liberal politicians, and the cycle keeps repeating itself.
