You should be having fun during the 20 years that you’re studying. And you should be having fun during the 40 years that you’re working.
It’s actually possible to get meaning from what you do as well. May not pay the best in the world, but it’s out there. I was in non-profit administration for many years, and I work for a law school now that helps poor folks, many BIPOC, get degrees so they can better themselves and their communities. Social justice people. I’ve also worked for a private conservative-owned company that only enriched some fuckwads, and I’ll not be doing that again.
Also I run a nonprofit that I founded on the side, and we’re hoping to hire our first staff person this year, I get a lot of meaning from that.
Basically if you work to change the world for the better instead of just slumping through your day, you feel good about your life, even though it’s hard work.
Yes, there’s that, too.
But even if you don’t like your job and don’t find much meaning out of it, it’s still worth trying to find contentment and happiness in other parts of your life.
I’ve had jobs I hated with coworkers I loved. I’ve had jobs I’ve liked in places I hated. I’ve had jobs I mostly hated that I actually appreciate having taught me important skills I still use today (for example, a 3-year stint in restaurants in my 20’s was miserable in a lot of ways, but it helped me stretch a tight grocery budget and fed me plenty of staff meals, and 20+ years later I’m still a great cook).
Jobs don’t define us. For many people, they’re just a small part of us. And we should go on to build fulfilling lives for ourselves across many domains, not just at work.
I had fun in college. My major didn’t define my actual day to day, or my memories of that time. I had fun in high school. I had fun in elementary school too. I don’t remember everything or even everyone, but I know I had a blast at those stages in my life, and most of the fun was had outside of school.
Work is the same way.
Yeah, but what are you supposed to do if you’re incompetent?
It should be all systems and auto.ation engineers, and operators, the other jobs should be extinct.
Yeah. The study part is all a lie anyway. Schools and colleges are all about instilling obedience into kids. The only actual learning happening is either natural or coming from young teachers who bought in a lie and haven’t been disillusioned yet.
The meaning of life is listening to groovy basslines on the way to and from work. And hugging your loved ones.
Don’t let anything distract you from that.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is, in fact, the objective truth.
Suicide until you’re reincarnated in billionaire family.
You incarnate into a rich family just in time for global economic collapse because of the actions of your family.
It’s not that bad. You’re generally not aware of what you’re doing for the first 10 years. Then study for the next 10. Then, if you work to live and not live to work, you might get something out of life. Anything post work, I kinda see as a bonus, not a goal. Predisposed medical conditions may mean you aren’t seeing those years anyway. Actually… it may be that bad lol.
Just don’t take it that seriously. Live till you die.Yeah, you may just get a fatal genetic disease at 8 years old
300 years ago:
Probably die
Work
Die
This assumes retirement will exist for most people.
The mean-ing of life :
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- get fun of your teachers with your fellow
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- get fun of your boss with your ,oworkers
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Reminds me of that David Bowie lyric…“We live for just these 20 years, do we have to die for 50 more?”.
And they are trying to take away the 3rd one, because without that you won’t need things like retirement savings, so they can just take all of that away from you.
I’m telling you guys - life in USSR was much much better than this shit we live in now.
I really hope this is a joke, mate…
If not: no, no it wasn’t. Unless by “USSR” you mean “Petersburg, Moscow, and their immediate surroundings”.
Most people polled in most eastern Europe post-Soviet countries who lived in socialism (except a few like Poland or Estonia) claim that life was better under socialism. Hard to blame them, I can’t imagine how safe and free from anxiety I’d feel if I had a guaranteed job, housing costed 3% of my monthly income, and my neighborhood was walkable and full of affordable canteens with cheap seasonal ready meals. Sure, it would be a small flat, I wouldn’t own a car, and I’d have to wait 4 years on a list to buy a new radio, but those are literally non-issues to me in comparison.
Most people polled in most eastern Europe post-Soviet countries who lived in socialism (except a few like Poland or Estonia) claim that life was better under socialism
I remember the poll you’re referring to. It was click-bait articles that made it sound like that, the actual research stated nothing like this.
They were basically “did you enjoy your life when you were young” kind of questions. And, to the apparent shock of everybody, when you ask an 70-80 year old that question, they’ll answer “yes”.
The only people who think fondly of the times under russian occupation are the people who were a part of the system.
russian occupation
As I said, Balts or Poles don’t count. Your far-right nationalist great replacement conspiracy theories aren’t factual. You’re indistinguishable from MAGA crying about being run over by Mexicans, French far right crying about being run over by black people, or Spaniards crying about being run over by Moroccans.
Example poll on a less racist territory like Romania:
66.2% of respondents believe Ceaușescu was a good leader for Romania
When asked whether life was better under communism than today, nearly half of respondents (48.4%) said yes, compared to 34.7% who said it was worse. Meanwhile, 65.1% believe there was less corruption under communism than there is now, and 75.1% think public safety was better before 1989.
Some 85.1% believe food was healthier under communism, and 66.4% think the state took better care of its citizens. The efficiency of state institutions is another area where the past is favored: 58.7% say they functioned better before 1989
Education and healthcare are also perceived to have been more accessible during communism. Nearly half of respondents (49.9%) say quality education was easier to obtain, and 48.6% believe healthcare services were more accessible. On economic output, 68.5% say Romania produced more goods and services before 1989 than it does today.
In cultural terms, the communist period is seen in a surprisingly positive light. About 75% of respondents say Romanian films were better under communism, 58% prefer the entertainment shows from that era, and over 71% believe the music was of higher quality. A strong 71.3% believe Romania has lost its cultural identity in recent decades.
Yet awareness of the regime’s darker chapters is widespread. More than 94% acknowledge that basic foodstuffs were rationed, 92.1% have heard about travel restrictions, and over 95% know that television was available for only a few hours a day.
Some 82% are aware that hundreds of thousands of Romanians were tortured or killed in communist prisons, though only 59.2% explicitly say the regime was responsible for those crimes. Just 14.3% believe those responsible were held accountable in court.
So, despite its shortcomings, people say life was better. Who woulda thunk
Your far-right nationalist great replacement conspiracy theories aren’t factual. (…)
No idea what does that have to do with anything. Please elaborate.
I updated my prior comment with a poll in Romania.
The fact that you talk of “Russian occupation” tells me you’re likely from the Baltics, where this conspiracy theory is most promoted. Smaller nations are influenced by geopoltical blocks, that’s just how reality works, I don’t see you talking about current “German occupation” due to belonging to the EU, or “US occupation” due to belonging to NATO. People in the Baltics are extremely russophobic, this is where this conspiracy theory stems from.
where this conspiracy theory is most promoted
What “conspiracy theory” do you mean?
It’s a historical, provable fact that russia invaded the Baltics, Poland, Czechoslovakia and a bunch of other countries in the East, installed puppet governments, and unified everything as “USSR” (with some countries, like Poland, having a bit more independence, and technically wasn’t a part of the USSR).
People in the Baltics are extremely russophobic
“Russophobic”? We’re not afraid of them, we just don’t like them for the hundreds of years of meddling and suffering they’ve caused us. Again, it’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s history.
“Russophobic”? We’re not afraid of them
“Islamophobic”? We’re not afraid of them
Literally MAGA discourse. I can smell Baltic right wing nationalists from a mile away.
0-10 years.
You can die during the first 60 at any time, never making it.
Or never retire due to circumstances outside your control in your working years
40+ years is a long time for shit to go wrong
i think about this when looking at the deduction % on my paystub i chose for retirement savings i may never use
At least it will give your children or siblings something to fight over when you die.
only 1 child, so he has it easy, unless i remarry, then it may get spicy
Die before retirement? Well that’s one way to escape wage slavery 😄
I’ve watched multiple co-workers not make it to retirement.
Really makes you want to keep doing it.
All the people I know that died did so once they were retired. No thanks, I’m never quitting the work force. You know how many people I know that died from drinking and driving? Zero.
“Free”
Both my parents retired. Are they living it up? Are they checking things off their bucket lists? Nope. They’re having emergency surgeries, planned surgeries, going to the doctor all the time, taking a regiment of pills or they die, and hanging around the house because they’re old and their mobillity isn’t great.
A just reward after a lifetime of work.
It’s a scam, friends. You’re going to work until you’re dead or until it doesn’t really matter anymore whether you’re dead or not.
I used to get downvoted to shit for saying things like this, but enjoy and use your youth.
No matter how you treat your body, you do not know what will happen to it. You may be athletic, rarely ill, an extremely healthy eater. You can still end up with a genetic condition you didn’t know about, with a cancer you never fully recover from, losing all of your limbs, losing your bowels or bladder. Dying. All kinds of things.
All of this can happen at any time in your life. Any time. You are not safe from bodily ailment just because you are young and apparently healthy.
Even if nothing happens until you are old and decrepit like a healthy person ought to be, you will still have lost the best years of your life.
Hey, I’m ~40 and this is that I do, too! Plus work.
Same. And take care of aging parents. And kids.
This framework fails to consider all the time between those main activities, which we spend shitposting.
Indeed, most days consist of 8 hours working, 8 hours sleeping and 8 hours shitposting.
Don’t forget sleeping and drinking.
Which we do in order to make the working hours bearable.
How selfish of you to deny your fortune to be able to contribute to the wealth of the chosen few!
