What I mean is like, what do you think is unironically awesome, even if people now think its cringe or stupid?

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    2 days ago

    See here’s the controversial take. I don’t agree with you at all. It was literally built up for the entire series and was the only natural conclusion. She was literally saying “I plan to break the wheel” from the start. That is not language a peaceful person uses. Her goals to begin with were those of a conqueror, and what we got was the natural end of that ambition when it crashes into reality.

    I think it was done beautifully, and the fact so many people bought into her side of things and felt betrayed is evidence of how well done it was.

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      1 day ago

      Nah, like they said… It’s not that it happened, it’s how it happened. She had never before turned on “her” people. She hadn’t even really ever turned on civillians so openly, either. It was definitely, unquestionably, rushed character development.

      It’s not that she went nuts, or even the specific, individual events. It’s how quickly she’s just suddenly cool with wasting people she wanted to rule. She was a relatively sane, motivated leader for years, maybe even decades, and suddenly, so close to victory, she drops any and all well established moral boundaries she’s clearly defined?

      That’s… not how crazy works. At all.

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        23 hours ago

        I believe that her arc is a conqueror’s journey disguised as a hero’s journey, and it was done so well that everyone felt betrayed. This thread is for hot takes, so there’s mine. 😄

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          18 hours ago

          Yea, the events were a bit of a dick punch, but they were still so grossly rushed, though. I was so checked out of the story by then I just laughed. GoT had become a weird parody of itself. Interesting, subtle character developments with interplay and dynamics? NOPE!! Cliche, sudden twists to shock the brainless TV audience in to clapping like seals? CHECK