No disagreement about lying to get people on your side. That was not necessary. But also, the arguments even without the lie are still good. Microsoft shouldn’t have to lie too, to discourage people from having more control over their machines.

After a while, you realize this place is not perfect either. Too much Linux (although I’m on Linux now), too much “voter suppression” messages from the left (which I’m no longer), tankies or whatever, I could swear I’ve seen several anti-Japanese/racist posts and the same crypto drivel you’d find on reddit.