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  • TheBeege@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlKorea
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    27 days ago

    Uhh… the USSR occupied the North until Kim Il-Sung took control. Just like the US with the South.

    The (current) relationships between the North and China and between the South and the US are very similar, except the US has military bases in the South. But the US does that with all its allies.

    As for the ROK military being directly subservient… I’m not as knowledgeable about this, but I think that’s only half true. The Korean military largely focuses on logistics and raw manpower, plus their special forces. (Holy shit, Korean special forces are fucking terrifying.) It’s largely understood that the US would lead operations, given that the US has more veterans, mass, and better-tested doctrine. However, as I understand, legally, Korea still controls its own military. KOTRA is one exception, but that’s a small subset of Korea’s military. But to be clear, this is my understanding from passive learning. I could be wrong about things and don’t have the time to read up right this moment. I’d appreciate corrections with sources.


  • TheBeege@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlKorea
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    27 days ago

    Okay, your second paragraph confuses the hell out of me. It sounds like you’re arguing against yourself. Can you rephrase it for me? I want to understand what you’re saying.

    Also, the US doesn’t have an emperor. It may be imperialistic, but it’s not an empire. But reading that makes me imagine it as an actual empire, which is fucking terrifying. Please don’t? At least for me? That makes me wildly uncomfortable.

    So… The US occupied the South until the ROK was established. This was kind of like Germany but for a much shorter time. When the North invaded the South, UN forces came to help. Yes, there was a direct line from Japanese occupation to US occupation, but US occupation ended very shortly afterwards. Say what you will about influence, but influence and occupation are very distinct. And yes, the US fucking with the PRK was terrible. I’m with you on that. But we’re talking about South Korea today.

    But going back to the original point, if the societal pressure results from the US, then why don’t we see such pressure in the US itself? Your historical argument for this doesn’t stand.

    A simpler explanation is the rise of Neo-Confucianism during the Joseon dynasty. It was patriarchal, focused on hierarchical structures, and expected testing for advancement. This clearly leads to competitive behaviors. While you could argue the US has similar things, Neo-Confucianism cranked that up to 11. The Joseon dynasty after Sejong was pretty shit. Korea was like this before the US showed up, even before the Japanese showed up (the last time. They tried so many times before that).


  • TheBeege@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlKorea
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    27 days ago

    What’s with all the Korea shit recently?

    I live in South Korea. It’s convenient, safe, and modern. I might be biased because I live in Gangnam, but I feel like people here have more spending power on average than people in the US.

    The societal pressure is a fucking nightmare, but that’s a uniquely Korean thing. Nothing to do with the US.

    Calling the South under foreign occupation is utter nonsense. Obviously, it’s hyperbole and propagandist, but it also acts like Korea doesn’t have its own culture or resist American influence. Quit trying to be edgy and use your brain.

    If you want to talk about occupation, read up on the Japanese occupation of Korea. That was foreign occupation.