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Cake day: September 27th, 2026

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  • Your end goal, friend, is noble, and I don’t mean to discourage you or gatekeep. And yet I must strongly advise you to slow your horses before you squander what I’d call your “social capital”, i.e. the willingness of the people close to you to follow your recommendations and try out new things. If they find their user experience greatly lagging behind what they’re used to, not only will they return to the services they were using prior to your suggestion: they will also be less likely to listen to you in the future and meet alternatives with skepticism, if not hostility. (“I’ve tried it and all this other stuff doesn’t work…”)

    Thus, you need to make sure that they have an excellent first experience with whatever you throw their way. As a tinkerer, tech enthusiast, privacy advocate, or whatever you want to call yourself, you’re likely willing to accept a great amount of jankiness, pain, and lack of feature parity because you feel you get something more valuable in return. But that is not how most people use computers. Most people do not care about privacy, digital independence or any of the things you may cherish; they want things to “just work”.

    And, to put it brutally bluntly (sorry!),

    Like I think I’d need tailscale and docker (still dont get what docker really is)

    this part alone tells me your solution is unlikely to “just work” for them. These are some basic skills to have if you want to try and compete with a billion-Dollar company and the convenience it provides to your friends.

    So, my advice is this: don’t aim for “perfect”, aim for “better”. And basically anything is better than using FB Messenger, Whatsapp, Discord or whatever they may be using. Either go for one of the large public Matrix nodes (Matrix.org is unlikely to go down any time soon…) or move your comms to Signal messenger. Both may not be fully under your control (Signal is centralised, and Matrix nodes might be closed or defederated), but they’re e2ee and so professionally managed that your friends might actually enjoy them, use them on a day-to-day basis, and even pull other people over. That way, you’re also building social capital, so that once you’ve obtained the skill to run your own and get it to the level of polish it needs to have, they’ll be willing to follow you there too.

    (If this posting sounds like I’ve learnt this the hard way, that’s because I have. Things are fine now, though: almost my entire social graph is reachable via Signal, and I’m preparing to self-host my own comms.)





  • but if message are not encrypted during transit it’s bad.

    I did not say that. ;) If you’ve secured your connection via SSL (which Nextcloud AIO forces you to do anyway), messages are encrypted in transit.

    I said they’re not end-to-end encrypted, i.e. they’re stored on the server without encryption. To be fair, in theory, this is less of an issue if you’re the one hosting the service.

    Strangely, on complain I received about signal was that they found it hard to save the pictures and videos shared on it

    That is somewhat true. Messengers like Telegram (yuck!) and (correct me if I’m wrong!) even Meta’s Whatsapp (doubleyuck!) do or at least can store all media unencrypted on the device in a folder. Signal does not do this. Every single pic/vid/whatever needs to explicitly be stored in device memory in encrypted form (there’s even a nag screen every time you do this). Also Signal does no appear to have an option so it will store media in encrypted format to the device storage. (Just looked, didn’t find anything of that kind.)

    With nextcloud talk, I would expect all the shared files to be available on the cloud drive.

    That might be correct. When you install it, Talk stubbornly creates a “Talk” folder in your NC files, which is likely to hold all media shared via Talk.





  • I’ve come across it, and I love the concept of making communication even more robust by making it independent even of the infrastructure of the internet. That said, I assumed that it would come with a lot more friction than the userbase I have in mind would tolerate. For now, my plan is to first seek an equally accessible, yet more decentralised alternative to Signal, and reserve digging into mesh networks for later.



  • Thank you so much for your offer! I’ve actually set it up last night and it’s running fine so far. It’s just that it won’t relay any calls if either of the devices is not on my network. Tunneling back into the network via VPN might be an option, but make it more cumbersome to use for some of the less techy folks around me.

    What’s your primary reason to self-host Synapse? And who do you use it with?