Hey man, after watching on the documentaries with her. She took it well up until it started mentioning stuff about trump and then she got frustrated.

I think I’m gonna listen to your advice, I said this in another thread but its just not my place to try and get her to “change her mind” I’m like- no better than the nutjob conservatives that will fight tooth and nail just to get someone to think the way they do.

She did enjoy the documentary up until the end, and at this point I just… feel bad.

I apologized to her after the vid, she had made a comment during our discussion that “I only watched this with you cus I wanted you to feel comfy and cus it was Black history month, but I feel like you lead me into this wanting to talk about Trump again” and that’s when i realized I’m crossing a line I shouldn’t. That comment made me realize that I was being a bit of a bitch… Even if I was coming from a place of good intentions.

I have a tendency to get like this, I’ll get frustrated or upset when I cant change someone’s mind on something, I’ll become obsessed with trying to prove my point until nothing else seems to matter anymore… I gotta stop that, its just not a good trait to have. Like sure its nice to talk about stuff and get my point across but at some point I gotta let it go and accept her as she is. I gotta start accepting people as they are, I had the same issue with my mom (she’s not MAGA whatsoever, just stubborn lol) and learn to live with that.

So i finally got to watch 13th with her and she took it well up until the end when they started showing clips n shit of trump speaking like a racist. She is open to every other thing except changing her mind about Trump. if I try to discuss anything in relation to him with her she gets extremely frustrated and I’m not sure how to get around that <:/

I think I’m just gonna stop mentioning politics to her and just- let her come to her own conclusions from now on and stop trying to spoonfeed stuff about trump to her. At this point I feel greasy doing it, like I’m going out of my way to try and get her to think like me and I should really not do that. She doesn’t push her opinions onto me so it’s just not right for me to push mine onto her. I should listen to what one other person said and just enjoy the friendship I have with her

I mean… I just worry for her dude… Her dad already gog laid off just 2 nights after they were talking to me about how “Trump was gonna make more jobs n fix all the layoffs” or whatever tf. and the company her dad works for LOBBIED WITH TRUMP to get him elected.

Shes super sheltered and just knows absolutely nothing about black history which I feel is a problem. At the very least I just her educated about black issues n shit cus her and her mom mentioned some shit about being “Colorblind” and just- as a darkie myself im just not about that 😭

Mmmm true… How do I not sound preachy?

I was friends with her for 4 years and only found out just 1-2 years ago when I mentioned Kamela. She doesnt blurt her politics unless you ask her to

Nahh she isnt the type to yell “WOKE” at stuff. Thank god. She’s just SEVERELY in the dark about shit.

She knows nothing about black history month, celebrities like Beyonce, Dolly Parton or Kanye; I thought she was fucking with me when she said “Isnt West a direction?” when I mentioned his name.

The only things she knows about are Politics and Roleplay (We roleplay gay shit on discord and that’s how we met lmfao)

So “woke stuff” doesnt phase her cus we roleplay “woke” stuff all the time with Monster boys on discord 🤣🤣 Her family is also aware and is super chill about it.

But I can and I did. I’ve already gotten her to back down on her ideas of Book bannings and Trans people and got her to admit being wrong in somethings.

is there a good movie for that?

TLDR; facts and logic arent enough to just change a person’s mind. It takes understanding the individual and having a lotta empathy to break down their defensive walls for them to actually listen to you.

My friend is open to change and I’ve gotten her to change her opinion on some things like book banning and trans people. (big win on the Trans part IMO)

You first have to understand the person and their reasons for WHY they may believe something before tackling it. For her, she simply wants what’s best for her country, which is an innocent thing to want; I also want what’s best for my country. But she thinks that through all the golden promises Trump makes that he’ll be her golden ticket to the nation being “great again”

Her reasons for being MAGA play on the fear of her own country falling apart, and the desperation/hopelessness of not being able to do anything about it. Trump preys on people’s fears and worries. That’s what’s got her hooked. And that’s the angle im trynna attack it from.

Relating to her or finding common ground is the best way to get someone to see you as a person worth listening to. I’ve told her many times before that I’m Democrat, but she believes me to be different because I’m open-minded enough to listen to her and what she has to say. She listens to me because I give her grace in a world that would be much quicker to insult and shame her, and shame isn’t a good way to change someones mind, as tempting as it can be to just call someone a “dumbass idiot”

I think that’s why a lot of MAGA are so deeply rooted in their camp. It’s because of the shame that may come with realizing that your entire worldview was wrong, or that they were stupid for being MAGA in the first place. And to avoid that kinda realization, they would much rather bury their head further into the sand. It can be a lot for someone to handle all at once if growing up thats all you knew.

I know this cus after debating her about the border situation and digging at her point just enough, she said something like “I’m just a cold-hearted person… but you have a lot of heart, I just don’t think I have any left…” or something like that. Every day I remind her that she is a good person, even if her beliefs are… blegh– Good people can make mistakes too, good people can end up doing bad things through having good intentions. I wanna be the cushion for– if and when her ideology does fall apart– it won’t ruin her completely. If that makes sense.

OOOO that El Norte sounds really good. Ima check that out!

Ive also been at it for a few months. this is the first movie night I’m gonna have with her. So far it’s just been us discussing things and ive made some decent progress ngl :0 My main goal is for her to detach herself from Trump above all else. And whatever conspiracy theories she’s into at the moment

They have empathy, its just misguided. They arent a racist but believe in being “Colorblind” (which is another conversation ima have to have with her lmao)

Her and her family just seem like the Misguided type of brainwashed where the only reason they became MAGA is out of some kind of fear or desperation for wanting to better their country. Innocent reasons that lead them into a horrible pipeline. They arent too far gone yet cus they enjoy talking to me and hearing out what I have to say. Even admitting when they are wrong in some aspects

Oooo yummy links

That looks like a good one too

I have not actually, and yeah ima keep yall posted ^^

I believe I have and she’s brought up some conspiracy theories to try and dissuade my points. Im gonna prolly educate her tonight on the psychology if Conspiracy theories and see what she thinks after that

Oh yea she’s super cool when not spewing stuff about the border. Ive got her to change her opinion on Book bannings and LGBT books being in schools.

She’s very receptive to hearing me out and so is her family it seems. They’re all conservative.

Her, and im also black so im like, the perfect candidate for this 🥴

Oooo that looks good