• hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
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    23 hours ago

    Sure. I mean we all know the stories on how denazification turned out. And how proper processing of the nazi past didn’t start until much later. I feel some people invested quite some effort into the entire thing, at least in West Germany, but that’s a different story and doesn’t include those people.

    Idk. I recently watched a short documentary about Merkel and the war in Syria. And seems she has some moral integrity. And she still thinks it’s a christian thing to help people and not steamroll them at the border or something. Also she’s very pro-Euroean. And she wasn’t a 70yo man when she assumed office… But yeah, she also did a lot of …nothing… to address issues. And the same neoliberal politics that is the core issue of everything.

    I always welcome if people refrain from calling everything nazi and devaluing the term. Now that we need it to call out the proper fascists. But I don’t think there’s a single reason to vote for the CDU either. That’s not a path forwards. And I bet the lines are blurred sometimes.

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      20 hours ago

      The issue with denazification was that it was ended way too soon and the German governments themselves were allowed to just end it. At the same time the winning powers of WW2 weren’t thoroughly denazifying the country, playing politics over valuable former nazis, trying to gain their expertise.

      A real denazification would have entailed sentencing every single Nazi party member to death. The same must be done now to any fascist parties like the AfD. (As a note to concerned mods, I’m not calling for violence, I’m calling for a due process with death penalty).

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        18 hours ago

        Hehe, sure that should do it. As an immediate first step we definitely should ground quite some people and take their phones away so they can’t be on Telegram all day.

        To be fair, I think a lot of the early denazification was important as symbolism. But it was never going to properly solve the underlying issue. And in the 50s they wanted to be done with it and move on, so they didn’t really do anything useful and that took until a new generation. So I think the proper process that got us somewhere happened during the entire later 20th century. And apart from school education, a lot was done within society, not necessarily just top-down by politics or the government.

        Unfortunately populism works quite well. And a lot of people really like to be sheep and be miserable and be told whom to hate.